Maggie Smith is NY Times bestselling (her memoir “You Could Make This Place Beautiful”), numerous award-winning poet and author who has been considered one of the first viral poets after her 2016 poem "Good Bones" was read in the hit CBS show 'Madam President', as well as by Meryl Streep at the Academy of American Poets gala. As our first non-musical guest, we seize the opportunity to go deep with Maggie on the creative process in general - a very apt topic with her latest book "Dear Writer: Pep Talks and Practical Advice for the Creative Life" hitting shelves on April 1. We talk about keeping the purity of your creativity, being integrated as a human, trusting yourself to do what’s needed to keep this career going and being your own safety net, being open to completely revamping work, and a whole lot more.

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Links:

• Maggie Smith
• “Dear Writer: Pep Talks & Practical Advice for the Creative Life”
• “My Thoughts Have Wings”
• Maggie's Substack
• Lucinda Williams
• Joan Didion doc "The Center Will Not Hold"
• Jane Goodall
• “Good Bones”
• Jim Carey commencement speech
• Tara Brach
• Stan Plumly

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