Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts will make history this weekend, as they become the first two Black quarterbacks to square off in a Super Bowl. For many, it's a sign of progress for a position that has historically been hugely biased against Black players. But just how much progress has actually been made? Today, sports economist David Berri explains why many Black QBs are still undervalued. Then, The Athletic’s Tashan Reed joins us to discuss his new podcast, Between The Lines, which explores what it means to be Black in the NFL today.

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