The latest of our conversations is with a man who could have easily written a Hollywood movie starring Michael Keaton Making Conversations about discernible deeds Count!
"So I just threw it out there. Where would I find my Ray Kroc? Where would he be? Where would I meet him? ...."
EA Csolkovits, Making Conversations Count - (May 2022)
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Who is EA Csolkovits?
EA Csolkovits is a man with a fascinating story that intertwines janitorial services with the golden arches.
Yes, those golden arches.
As the founder of Givers University, EA Csolkovits is living his purpose, helping students to identify discernible deeds.
All of it comes back - as it usually does - to the conversation that he had that counted.
And that conversation was with June Martino.
Yep, bit of a break in format with this episode.
Because the whole conversation is the conversation that counted.
And in this particular story, it's not the conversation we're focusing on. It's what that conversation led to.
In this episode of the "Making Conversations Count" podcast, EA explains to Wendy exactly what it was that June Martino said to him, and where that led him in his own journey.
You'll learn....
This episode of "Making Conversations Count", in which EA Csolkovits tells his story about meeting June Martino and learning the origin story of McDonalds and Ray Kroc, covers:
- EA’s connection to the movie “The Founder”
- What “The Founder” depicted accurately
- The question EA asked June Martino
- EA’s need to find his Ray Kroc
- How EA applies his learnings from Ray Kroc to GIVERS!
A poignant moment from the episode:
There's a part in the movie where June goes to Ray and says, "Ray, we got a little problem. We don't have any money".
He can't believe it.
And he says, what do you mean? We have all these?
And that causes him to call the brothers and they have this drama scene. I want more percentage, I need more percentage, etc.
And he signs on the phone, that isn't how the event happened, but the event itself did happen.
So she told me Ray didn't have any money.
He was out of money.
There was no money in the till.
There was no money in the company.
So we made an agreement that I would keep working for him for no pay.
And he would pay me in worthless worth less than zero company stock. And he would take the bill collectors and the bill collectors were calling me personally for money.
He would take the phone calls. So I just asked her, I said, June, why did you do it? I said, I'm 16 years old and I'm a janitor. I work paycheck to paycheck. If I don't get my check on Friday, I'm not showing on Saturday. I need my check.
Why did you work for nothing? I would never do that. And right then Wendy, she stared at me with this blank look on her face, eyeball to eyeball, and I realised she just left the room even though she's staring at me.
And here I am, I'm 16 years old and I'm talking to June Martino, the icon.
Everyone knew who she was in the area when I met her. As she's staring at me, I'm going because it seemed like 30 minutes was like maybe 15 seconds.
But I realised I just asked her a question no one ever asked her...