Here's the first episode of the new Jonesy's Jukebox podcast. To start off and to get geared up for the premiere of the tv show "Pistol," based on Steve Jones' autobiography "Lonely Boy," Jonesy is presenting some of the characters important in Sex Pistols history. One of the most consequential is founding manager Malcolm McLaren, strikingly portrayed in the series by actor Thomas Brodie-Sangster. In this podcast, you'll hear the real McLaren.

Steve Jones hadn't seen Malcolm McLaren since he ran off with the filthy lucre in the days of the Great Rock n Roll Swindle. In this episode, Jonesy revisits the old-school Indie 103.1 radio encounter in 2005 when the Embezzler and the Thief saw each other for the first time in over 25 years. But Jonesy will explain it, so just listen! There have been some bits and bobs out there on the web but for the first time since it aired live, here is the entire interview with the notorious raconteur Malcolm McLaren.

*Bonus- Jonesy's whistles for a winner. Can you name the song?

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