Possibly the realest and most candid conversation I've ever had. This was a great, no-holds-barred chat with Joe Murray for an episode of his Freedom For All podcast.

As well as getting a little bit into the true, dark nature of the corporate music industry, we discuss true rights, freedoms and spirituality against the context of these current, momentous times ... and we don't hold back.

WARNING - CONTAINS EXPLICIT LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT