Marketing Without Rules

Marketing Without Rules

By Lewis VandervalkBusinessMarketing
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Marketing Without Rules episodes

  • MWR #41 - How Home Service Businesses Land High-Authority Backlinks with Darcy Cudmore

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk sits down with Darcy Cudmore, founder of RepuLinks, a boutique digital PR and SEO agency that has secured over 5,000 organic backlinks for clients since launch.

     

    Darcy, a journalism graduate turned PR expert, reveals his proven strategies for landing high-authority backlinks from major publications like Forbes, USA Today, and CBS News without buying links. He demonstrates the Featured.com platform live, showing exactly how home service companies can pitch journalists and secure valuable media coverage.


    The conversation covers both reactive PR strategies (responding to journalist queries) and proactive campaigns, with specific tactics for plumbers, electricians, HVAC companies, and other home service businesses. 


    Darcy emphasizes the importance of creativity and persistence in 2025's competitive PR landscape, sharing real client success stories including a $10,000 sale directly attributed to CBS News coverage. 


    This episode provides actionable insights for any home service business looking to build authority, improve SEO rankings, and gain credible media mentions through organic link building strategies.


    00:00 Introduction to Marketing Without Rules

    05:44 Creative PR strategies for home service companies

    11:56 Live demonstration of Featured.com platform

    16:45 Client success story: CBS News coverage leads to $10,000 sale

    18:47 Home service opportunities on Featured.com

    23:15 Proactive PR campaigns and finding story angles

    25:51 Building media lists and finding journalists

    32:15 Final advice and connecting with Darcy


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    34 min
  • MWR #40 - The Customer Experience Strategy That Closes 95% of Jobs with Kevin Hess

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk interviews Kevin Hess, founder of Survivor Junk Removal and former standout team member at 1-800-GOT-JUNK. Kevin shares how he helped grow a franchise location from $800K to $9 million in revenue by transforming from a manager into a leader and developing his entire team as leaders. 


    He reveals the critical difference between managing processes and leading people, explaining how empowering employees to run morning huddles and setting ambitious goals created an "army of leaders" that achieved franchise of the year and #1 ranking out of 175 locations. 


    Kevin breaks down his proven customer experience strategy that achieves a 95-96% onsite conversion rate, including welcome calls, strategic call-aheads that plant seeds for additional work, offering coffee runs, and building genuine relationships before discussing pricing. He explains his effort-based KPIs focused on residential average job size and shares the three key customer value drivers: time, space, and effort. 


    The episode concludes with insights from his leadership books and resources available through The Junk Evolution, emphasizing the importance of putting ego aside and focusing on relationship-building over transactional interactions.


    00:00 Introduction to Marketing Without Rules

    00:36 Meet Kevin Hess: From Cancer Survivor to Business Leader

    02:14 Kevin's Journey with 1-800-GOT-JUNK

    03:13 The Power of Leadership and Team Development

    06:15 Setting and Achieving High Goals

    12:43 The Importance of KPIs in Business

    20:22 Customer Experience: From Booking to Job Completion

    25:37 Building Customer Relationships in Home Services

    26:25 Examples of Rapport Building

    27:59 Understanding Customer Needs

    30:52 Keys to Customer Value: Time, Space, and Effort

    33:05 Tools of the Trade

    34:16 Earning Five-Star Reviews

    35:49 The Importance of Clear Communication

    39:07 Dream Collaborations and Networking

    41:46 Avoiding Transactional Interactions

    44:23 Books and Resources for Home Services

    49:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


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    43 min
  • MWR #39 - The B2B Partnership Blueprint That Built a $5M Home Service Business with Phil Risher

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk chats with Phil Risher, founder of Phlash Consulting, who shares the exact blueprint he used to scale a home service business from $3M to $5M in under two years. 


    Phil reveals how the original company achieved $3M in revenue with just 36 Google reviews by leveraging 100 B2B referral partners instead of relying on traditional marketing.


    He breaks down his complete B2B partnership system step-by-step: finding complementary services, cold outreach sequences, lunch-and-learn presentations with technicians, QR code referral systems and B2B email newsletters that gamify the referral process.


    Phil also covers lead management strategies that unlocked $100K in additional revenue for one client, AI-powered content creation using call transcripts and why cohesive content calendars outperform scattered marketing efforts. 


    From his early days paying off $30K in student debt on a $48K salary to building a marketing agency with 15 team members, Phil demonstrates how data-driven strategies combined with relationship-building create sustainable business growth that attracts private equity buyers.


    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    02:28 Phil's Early Career and Financial Hustle

    03:51 Transition to Digital Marketing and Blogging

    05:40 Corporate Experience and Starting Flash Consulting

    14:24 Scaling Flash Consulting and Service Offerings

    17:18 The B2B Partnership System That Changes Everything

    24:20 Step-by-Step Cold Outreach for B2B Partners

    24:37 Lunch-and-Learn Strategy with Technician Teams

    25:29 QR Code Referral Systems and Follow-up Process

    26:03 B2B Email Newsletters and Gamification Tactics

    27:15 Lead Management Systems That Unlock Revenue

    29:44 Three-Touch-Point Communication Strategy

    31:34 Using AI for Content Creation and Call Transcripts

    41:59 Content Calendars and SEO Strategy

    49:06 Final Thoughts and Contact Information


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    47 min
  • MWR #38 - How to Earn Your Place in Search: 4 Actionable SEO Strategies for the AI Era with Lewis Vandervalk

    In this solo episode, host Lewis Vandervalk discusses how business owners can secure a prominent place in search results as AI transforms how people find local companies. With Google AI overviews, ChatGPT, and other AI tools now scanning the internet for signs that people are talking about your business, the old approach no longer works. 


    Lewis shares four specific strategies: getting detailed reviews that mention what you did and how you did it, engaging actively in community groups through participation and giveaways, leveraging social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok as searchable SEO tools, and utilizing Reddit for local visibility since Reddit posts are dominating search results. 


    He also covers implementing schema markup as a bonus strategy. Lewis offers a gift card incentive for the first five listeners who take action on the Reddit strategy. 


    The episode emphasizes that this isn't about manipulating search engines, but about documenting great work consistently so AI and search engines can serve you up when people need your services.


    00:00 Introduction to Marketing Without Rules

    00:42 Why being "talked about" matters more than ever

    01:34 Strategy #1: Get reviews that include specifics

    04:37 Strategy #2: Community engagement and giveaway tactics

    08:58 Strategy #3: Using social media as an SEO tool

    11:48 Strategy #4: Reddit strategy for local businesses (gift card offer)

    16:50 Bonus Tip: Schema markup implementation

    20:42 Conclusion and call to action


    Visit BlueCrocus.ca if you have marketing questions you need help with!

    18 min
  • MWR #37 - What Most Contractors Get Wrong About Marketing (& What Actually Works) with Zach Garside

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk interviews Zac Garside, President of Prolific Brand Design. They dive deep into the hunter mindset, creative marketing strategies and the biggest mistakes contractors make when trying to stand out.


    Zac shares actionable insights on boosting email deliverability, crafting captivating campaigns that actually get replies, and building long-term relationships with your list. They also discuss how CSRs can make or break your marketing ROI and introduce the concept of emblematic touchpoints… the small, memorable “WOW” moments that define your brand.


    This episode goes beyond tactics, challenging business owners to stop copying “best practices” and start creating marketing that’s personal, bold, and unforgettable.


    00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview

    02:58 The Importance of CSRs in Home Services

    05:45 Creating a Wow Experience

    13:45 Effective Email Marketing Strategies

    18:16 The Pitfalls of Cold Emailing

    33:50 The Flexibility of Email Marketing

    34:49 Optimal Email Frequency

    35:09 The Importance of Consistency and Quality

    39:57 Emblematic Touchpoints in Marketing

    49:54 The Value of Personal Touch in Business

    52:18 The Role of AI in Marketing

    01:04:10 Final Thoughts and Takeaways


    Visit BlueCrocus.ca if you have marketing questions you need help with!

    59 min
  • MWR #36 - What We’d Do If We Started a Home Service Business Today with Chris Scoville

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk welcomes Chris Scoville, founder and CEO of Improvifi, to break down what they’d do to launch a home service business from scratch. 


    Using a fictional brand called “Generator King”, Lewis and Chris brainstorm creative marketing strategies, branding tactics and referral-based growth plans that any local service business owner can use. 


    They discuss the importance of standing out in a saturated market, the power of partnerships and physical branding, and how to build a referral flywheel that attracts long-term customers. 


    From custom-wrapped porta-potties to co-branded trucks and authentic relationship-building, this episode delivers real-world advice with a creative twist, perfect for any trades-based entrepreneur looking to grow smarter and faster.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:35 Chris Scoville’s Background and Business Growth

    02:59 Building a Team with Purpose

    04:52 Scaling and Overcoming Challenges

    08:26 Creating the “Generator King” Blueprint

    28:02 Referral Strategies and Networking

    31:13 Colorful Dumpsters and Porta-Potties

    32:20 Branding and Partnerships in Dumpster Rentals

    34:21 The Importance of Differentiation in Marketing

    37:12 How to Build a Brand That Gets Noticed

    49:11 Final Thoughts and Where to Find Us


    Visit BlueCrocus.ca if you have marketing questions you need help with!

    51 min
  • MWR #35 - How to Turn One Job Into Five Using This Simple Local Marketing Formula

    What if every job you completed quietly brought in 3, 4, even 5 more without running ads or chasing cold leads?


    In this free training, Marketing Without Rules host Lewis Vandervalk reveals the exact local marketing strategy that service pros are using to multiply their jobs using trust, visibility, and smart systems.


    This week's episode is a special encore replay episode of a workshop Lewis hosted in June of 2025.


    In this episode, you’ll discover:


    How to get happy customers to post about you in community Facebook groups (without being pushy)


    Why signs, short videos, and reviews on multiple platforms still outperform fancy digital strategies


    How to revive your old customer list with one simple text


    A step-by-step formula to turn every job site into a local referral machine


    This isn't marketing theory. It's what smart home service businesses are doing right now to 5X their leads without extra spend or a marketing team.


    Whether you're a contractor, home service pro, or local business owner, this training gives you a real-world system to grow fast using the jobs you're already doing.


    Visit BlueCrocus.ca if you have marketing questions you need help with!

    33 min
  • MWR #34 - What They Don’t Tell You About Scaling a Trades Business with Mitch Smedley

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk sits down with Mitch Smedley, owner of Smedley Plumbing and co-founder of Trade Wins, to unpack the real story behind what it takes to grow a trades business and why most owners stay stuck in the field longer than they should.

    From turning a plumbing van into a go-kart and strapping a 12-foot skeleton to a service vehicle… to hiring a full-time videographer and creating content that actually brings in leads.  Mitch shares the bold (and sometimes bizarre) tactics that helped him break free from the daily grind and turn his company into a brand.


    But it’s not all about stunts and social media. This episode pulls back the curtain on the hidden roadblocks that stop most trades businesses from scaling like lack of systems, fear of delegation and trying to "market like everyone else."


    You’ll also get a behind-the-scenes look at Trade Wins, where Mitch helps other trades business owners build operations that don’t rely on the owner doing everything. Whether you're a plumber, roofer, or any local service pro trying to build something that lasts, this episode will challenge what you think it takes to grow.


    00:00 Intro and Guest Welcome

    01:57 Mitch Smedley's Unique Approach to Social Media

    04:49 Creative Marketing Tactics That Actually Work

    06:43 The ‘Fix Pipes and Pet Dogs’ Brand Strategy

    11:36 Plumbing Problems, Innovation, and Customer Experience 13:34 Personal Branding & Community Credibility

    29:29 How Mitch Got Started in Plumbing

    34:40 AI and What It Means for the Trades

    39:01 Wild Marketing Stunts That Worked

    41:52 The Skeleton Van Campaign

    44:02 YouTube as a Lead Machine

    50:01 Thinking Differently About Marketing

    57:17 Tradewinds Consulting for Trades Pros

    01:09:57 Google Reviews and Reputation Growth

    01:15:21 Why Playing Small Isn’t Safe Anymore


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    1 hr 3 min
  • MWR #33 - The Real Reason Most Contractors Fail at Marketing with Joseph Hughes

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk sits down with Joseph Hughes from Contractor Dynamics to unpack the real reason most contractors fail at marketing and what to do instead. Sponsored by Blue Crocus Solutions, the conversation unpacks Joseph’s journey from struggling entrepreneur to a highly sought-after marketing educator in the roofing space.


    Joseph reveals how his early failures shaped his approach, the power of mentorship, and the disciplined daily routine that fuels his consistency. Together, they break down the common traps contractors fall into… like chasing quick-hit leads without building a brand. 


    Topics include the difference between marketing and lead generation, how to use video content effectively, and the tactical steps behind becoming 'Five Mile Famous.' Joseph also shares why extreme ownership, testing, and clear messaging are critical for any contractor looking to build a business that lasts.


    00:00 Welcome to Marketing Without Rules

    00:29 Introducing Joseph Hughes and Contractor Dynamics

    00:54 Joseph's Journey: From Struggles to Success

    04:11 The Importance of Consistency and Discipline

    04:33 Joseph's Daily Routine for Success

    07:49 The Evening Routine: Winding Down

    12:01 Extreme Ownership in Business

    14:57 Marketing vs. Lead Generation

    20:02 Becoming Five Mile Famous

    27:14 Tactical Marketing Tips for Roofing Companies

    27:26 The Power of Video Content

    29:29 Boosting vs. Targeted Ads

    30:32 Effective Marketing Strategies and Testing

    36:40 Getting Started with Video Production

    43:29 Consistency and Clarity in Marketing

    46:14 Common Marketing Mistakes and How to Avoid Them

    50:24 Final Thoughts and Takeaways


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    44 min
  • MWR #32 - How to Build a System-Driven Service Business That Grows Without You with Adam Sand

    In this episode of Marketing Without Rules, host Lewis Vandervalk sits down with Adam Sand, roofing entrepreneur and founder of Roofing Business Partner to unpack what it really takes to build a service business that grows without depending on you.


    Adam shares his journey from being an operator in a roofing company to founding the Roofing Business Partner, a consulting firm focused on helping roofing companies streamline operations and implement CRM systems. They dive into how he balances business and family life, why data-driven decisions matter and how to create SEO content that actually converts.


    You’ll also hear about the future of business systems including AI, smart contracts, and Adam’s plan to consolidate roofing companies through a special purpose vehicle (SPV) to boost valuations and long-term equity.


    If you're serious about systemizing and scaling your service business, this episode delivers the blueprint.


    00:00 Introduction and Initial Thoughts

    00:42 Welcome to Marketing Without Rules

    01:07 Meet Adam Sand: Entrepreneur and Consultant

    02:33 The Importance of Data and Parenting Insights

    06:15 Balancing Business and Family Life

    09:00 Work-Life Balance: Myth or Reality?

    11:12 Rapid Fire Questions and Business Insights

    17:31 Webinar Strategy and Execution

    23:34 Setting Deadlines and Empowering Teams

    23:53 The Evolution of SEO and AI's Impact

    26:10 AI in Home Services: A Personal Experience

    27:23 Interactive Tools and AI Integration

    29:18 Future of AI and Home Services

    38:45 Consolidation in the Roofing Market

    46:44 Content Creation Strategies

    50:13 Final Thoughts and Future Plans


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    51 min

About Marketing Without Rules

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Marketing Without Rules is your go-to podcast for breaking free from the confines of traditional marketing. Hosted by Lewis Vandervalk, this show throws out the rulebook and embraces creativity, boldness, and unconventional thinking. Each episode dives into the uncharted territory of marketing strategies that don’t follow the norm – and that’s exactly the point.