This week, Turner Prize winning artist and musician Martin Creed joins Jools and Jim for a run out in his trusty Fiat Panda.

Martin invites Jools and Jim to revel in the endless possibility of travel and provides a philosophical reading of the importance of learning to drive.

Jim gets the measure of late-learner Martin, while Jools offers up a potted history of listening to music on the go; and the three discuss childhood cycling holidays, a theory about jetlag and being questioned by police in the Eastern Bloc…

A Dig! Studios / Warner Music Entertainment podcast.

Produced by Molly Stewart.

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