June 23, 2020

Mastering Passive Income with Real Estate | Dustin Heiner

54 minutes

Today’s episode features Dustin Heiner from Master Passive Income

Dustin vividly remembers a march to the boss with kids waiting at home, knowing he was about to lose his job.

He knew from that day, he needed to build his own income streams away from traditional employment.

30 real estate properties later and he had the freedom he always wanted.

Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.

Episode Summary

Dustin’s Background

Dustin is a serial entrepreneur

Websites, pizzeria, graphic design, and even a skateboard manufacturing gig

He refers to a traditional job as “Just Over Broke”

During this journey, he stumbled upon real estate investing

His first one was profiting $350 per month and he was hooked

Dustin learned the hard way

There weren’t any good courses or coaches out there at the time

He talks about how much he learned from his mistakes

Breaking Away from Tradition

Dustin also went to college just because it was what he felt like he should do

This led to a ten-year career in IT at a government agency

He walks us through the fearful moment when he realized he didn’t want to rely on someone for employment ever again.

That fearful moment was when Dustin got laid off with 4 children

He did continue to work in IT but he swapped his perspective

From then on, he would introduce himself as a real estate investor

9 years and 30 houses later, he was able to step away from that traditional career

Dustin could have stepped away earlier but admits it is tough to walk away from stability

Dustin’s Real Estate Investing

Dustin started out living in California

Prices didn’t make sense there so he looked out of state

He was investing in Ohio, Texas, etc

Out of all the houses he’s purchased, he’s only traveled to see one in person

This requires a network of people you can trust

The key here is the property manager, they are the quarterback

His requirement for a house is a minimum of $250 per month profit

We also talk about renting vs owning

401ks & Real Estate Investing

Dustin talks about cashing out or borrowing from 401k to buy real estate

He actually doesn’t like investing 401ks at all

This comes off his assumption that he can make so much more from real estate

So his argument isn’t that 401ks are intrinsically bad

Common Real Estate Mistakes

Not accounting for paying for a property manager

Not putting back money for repairs

Buying a house with really small margins

Buying a home in an area where everyone is leaving

In general, overestimate expenses and underestimate rental income

Key Takeaways

Your Paycheck is not your value: Companies pay you just what they need to so that you stay but they’re as profitable as possible.

Overestimate the bad, underestimate the good: Dustin recommends this mindset when looking at real estate.

Call to Action

Look into real estate as an investment. If your stuck on the fence, especially due to prices in your local area, then do like Dustin did and grab a property manager to invest out of state.

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Dustin’s Information

Website: Massive Passer Income

Twitter: Dustin Heiner

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