Matt Chandler has been in the room with actual billionaires on multiple occasions — and the way he describes what happens to people who have everything almost everyone else is chasing isn't what most of us would expect. He told us he won't even let some of them bless him. And after 23 years pastoring one of the most affluent suburbs in America, he's seen exactly what the chase actually does to families.

In this conversation, we get into a question Matt says nobody has asked him: what he's actually watched wealth do to people up close. We talk about the upgrade cycle most Christian families never name (and the bigger house Matt and Lauren refused to buy because of it), why the finish line always moves no matter how much you make, the diagnostic he gives for whether money is serving you or you're serving it, and what bad stewardship really does to the peace in your home.

And for more rich teaching on how to become more like Jesus check out his new book Becoming Like Jesus -

WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE

Here's a little of what we cover in this episode:

• What Matt has watched wealth do to families over 23 years in Dallas
• The room full of billionaires moment most pastors never talk about
• The bigger house Matt and Lauren almost bought (and the math that decided it)
• "The finish line always moves" — the trap most Christians never name
• The diagnostic Matt uses to spot whether money is serving you
• What bad stewardship actually does to the peace in a home
• How Matt and Lauren built radical generosity into their budget when he made $12,000 a year
• Why budgeting is a spiritual discipline, not a numbers nerd thing

BIBLE VERSES MENTIONED

• 1 Corinthians 16:2

RESOURCES MENTIONED

• Matt Chandler's Book: Becoming Like Jesus

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