The Talking Tradesman

Matt Willis, Childhood bullying, coming out as Gay, Loss and his business journey


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Russ & Matt delve into the guest's background, including his upbringing, coming out as gay, and his career journey from working in the civil service to becoming a painter and decorator.

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The conversation touches on themes of family, acceptance, and personal growth. The conversation covers various topics including experiences in school, the education system, identity, and alcoholism. Matt discusses his personal experiences with school, including instances of discrimination and mistreatment.

They also touch on the current state of the education system and the challenges faced by LGBTQ+ individuals. The conversation then shifts to the topic of identity and the hosts share their thoughts on the use of labels and pronouns. They also discuss the issue of accepting and accommodating different identities in society. The conversation concludes with a discussion on alcoholism and the impact it has on individuals and their relationships.

The conversation explores the theme of grief and bereavement, focusing on the personal experiences of losing a close friend. The speaker shares the story of his friend's sudden death and the impact it had on his life. They discuss the importance of talking about death and the taboo surrounding the topic. The conversation also touches on the struggle of hiding one's true identity and the need for acceptance and understanding. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for open and honest discussions about grief, death, and identity.

In this final part of the conversation, Matt discusses the challenges of being a gay painter and decorator and how his sexuality has become a unique selling point. He shares a story about a customer who hired him specifically because he felt safe with a gay decorator. Matt also talks about his decision to focus on interior work and his plans for the future. The conversation ends with a discussion about mental health in the construction industry and the importance of talking about struggles and seeking support.

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