Mike Yeadon is a former chief scientist at Pfizer, and Mattias Desmet is a professor of psychology at Ghent University in Belgium.

Both Mattias and Mike have been on my podcast on separate occasions.

This time they were together.

They discussed

mass formation psychosis;

scientists not thinking critically;

totalitarianism and its parallels to Covid hysteria;

the human desire for belief in something; and

why Mike could have chosen a better American state in which to live.

 

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