Caleb and I get into him always wanting to be in a rock band, dating, having a humble approach to his musicianship and artistry, and more in this second installment of the Me in the Making podcast. Email him at [email protected]!

I talk with my very good friend Arie about work, growing up during our teens years, marriage, making it to our 30s chile, and a host of other topics during our conversation.

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The Me in the Making podcast is about self-discovery and encouraging personal introspection. Join host Melissa Clay and a new guest each week as they converse about how they became who they are and who they are continuing to become.