What happens to mean girls when they grow up? Some get better at hiding it. Some run companies. And some of us realize we’ve carried those voices in our own heads.

In this episode, I sit down with Erin Gallagher — CEO and founder of Hype Women — who turned one viral post about Jamie Lee Curtis hyping Michelle Yeoh into a global movement. Her new book Hype Women dives head-first into the tangled mess of mean-girl culture, good-girl conditioning, and the patriarchy that benefits from keeping women small.

Erin and I get into the psychology of comparison, the lie of “being nice,” and why learning to hype yourself and other women is an act of rebellion. 

We’re unpacking the unspoken rules that keep ambitious women silent, self-critical, and secretly exhausted. You’ll walk away seeing jealousy, judgment, and competition through a new lens and start rewiring them for good.

• How Hype Women became a cultural movement (and what Jamie Lee Curtis had to do with it)
• The difference between mean-girl behavior and “good-girl” conditioning
• Why jealousy is often just desire wearing a disguise
• How patriarchy profits from women doubting each other
• What happens when you stop abandoning yourself to stay liked
• The truth about “playing nice” versus being authentic
• How to spot internalized misogyny hiding in everyday interactions
• The mindset shift that turns envy into empowerment

This conversation is your permission slip to stop shrinking. Erin’s book Hype Women comes out October 14 anywhere books are sold. Go to hypewomen.com for links, events, and extras.

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Notable Timestamps: 

[04:39] The Sentence That Changed Everything
[07:22] What Jealousy Is Really Trying to Tell You
[10:49] How Hyping Other Women Rewires Your Brain
[13:35] The Lie Behind “Good Girl” Conditioning
[22:36] The Viral Post That Started a Global Movement
[36:59] When Vulnerability Becomes a Liability

Quotes from Erin Gallagher:

• “I will no longer abandon myself in service to others.” (08:10)
• “You can’t stop loathing or lusting after other women’s bodies until you love your own.” (10:00)
• “Jealousy isn’t ugly—it’s information about what you want.” (12:00)
• “Control feels safe, but it also blocks the good trying to find you.” (46:30)
• “The moment you stop playing the good-girl game, you start to win your own life.” (17:45)

Takeaways:

• Mean-girl dynamics evolve into adult hierarchies that keep women small.
• Jealousy is rarely malice—it’s a signal of desire.
• Patriarchy relies on women competing for limited approval.
• Good-girl conditioning trains women to be compliant instead of bold.
• Hyping another woman rewires your brain away from scarcity.
• Authenticity may cost comfort, but it always returns power.

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