He probably doesn't need an introduction. His MeatEater brand is ubiquitous. Steven Rinella is the host of the long-running television show MeatEater and top-ranked MeatEater podcast. And he's the cover story in a recent magazine article I wrote. In listening to my interviews, I thought you might enjoy learning what I learned about the man, the brand, the evolution of all things MeatEater, and where his inspirations come from (hint: not where you think). You won't find this frank, wide-ranging discussion anywhere else, even in the magazine article I wrote.

It was never meant to be a podcast, so there's a lot more me-talk than you'd get in a regular episode. But it's two friends, catching up, sharing notes, and in the course of it, you and I get to learn a bit.

We go down a few rabbit holes, get sidetracked in industry geekdom, talk business and family, and share some stories since the last time our paths crossed. Okay, so there's not much bird hunting or dog talk, but there's plenty of good stuff. Enjoy.

Steve Rinella is the New York Times bestselling author of ten books dealing with wildlife, hunting, fishing, and wild game cooking. He is the recipient of the Conservation Achievement Award from The Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.

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