Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) says the idea that President Biden would beat Donald Trump in 2024 is a “delusion” and “a threat to democracy.” Olivia Beavers, Navin Nayak and fmr. White House Deputy Press Secretary Pete Seat join the Meet the Press NOW roundtable to discuss recent polling for the 2024 presidential race ahead of the Iowa caucuses. Jury deliberations begin in Rudy Giuliani’s defamation trial over the former mayor’s conflict with two election workers during the 2020 election.

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