In Ep. 119, Jerry talks with West Virginia Treasurer Larry Pack, in a conversation touching on:

• How the ‘war on coal’ is connected to debanking controversies
• Debanking vs. Deplatforming: which is more dangerous, or are they the same?
• How Treasurer Pack is fighting for tax cuts for people wearing boots – not just suits.

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In Ep. 118, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Gabriella Hoffman, the director of the Center for Energy and Conservation at Independent Women's Forum. Join us for a wide-ranging conversation, including:

• The Gen-Z populism behind the rise of socialist candidates such as Zohran Mamdani
• The inherent privilege of being anti-energy — and why that matters
• Is ‘Abundance’ liberalism (1) real, (2) abundant, or (3) liberal?
• Why environmental conservation is conservative

Check out Gabriella’s work here and follow her on X @Gabby_Hoffman.

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In Ep. #117, Jerry speaks with Dr. John Fleming, treasurer of the state of Louisiana, for a wide-ranging conversation. Topics include:

• Do decarbonization efforts, from net zero to carbon capture, actually do anything?
• How racial gerrymandering creates a more polarized nation
• The history of property rights — and why that matters in creating wealth for ordinary Americans.

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In this episode, Isaac is joined by Dr. Brian Dellinger, AI expert and professor of computer science at Grove City College. We discuss:

• What a real theology of technology looks like
• Why Christian culture is so reflexively anti-AI
• Can AI be a tool for kingdom-building?

Hint: the answer’s yes.

Check out Grove City College’s work with AI in Biblical translation here: https://www.gcc.edu/Home/News-Archive/News-Article/gcc-research-aims-to-improve-ai-biblical-translation

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In this episode, Jerry welcomes Newsweek’s Jesse Edwards to unpack the controversy surrounding McDonalds’ decision to step back from its DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) hiring quotas. Together, they explore:

• Why corporations are expected to take stances on social and political issues at all
• How DEI initiatives often lead to further corporate activism — and unintended consequences
• Why these programs often harm the very people they pretend to support

Jesse shares insights from his recent Newsweek article, arguing that complex societal challenges shouldn’t be solved through corporate experiments. As he puts it: “There’s no logical reason to expect a company like McDonald’s to solve these issues by using its workforce as guinea pigs for social engineering.”

Listen in for a candid conversation on the limits of corporate responsibility — and why sometimes, fries should just be fries.

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In Ep. 114, Jerry sits down with Alabama State Auditor Andrew Sorrell. Join us for a fascinating conversation on topics including:

• Sorrell’s personal experience with being debanked
• Who’s the bigger problem in debanking: big banks or regional banks?
• How debanking creates problems in the cryptocurrency industry
• How banking restrictions threaten Second Amendment rights - and how Alabama’s fighting back

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In Episode 113 of Meeting of Minds, Utah State Treasurer Marlo Oaks returns for a compelling discussion on how alternative currencies—especially gold-backed systems—could offer economic resilience and restore financial autonomy to states seeking greater independence from federal monetary policy.

Jerry and Treasurer Oaks explore:

• How gold is strengthening state rainy-day funds in Utah
• The role of precious metals in safeguarding against inflation and economic instability
• The constitutional foundation for issuing gold-backed currency
• Whether Bitcoin and digital assets offer a viable alternative in currency crises

This episode dives deep into the intersection of economics, policy, and freedom—don’t miss it!

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In Ep. 112, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Dr. Chris DeArmitt, a materials scientist, author, and public speaker known for his work discussing misconceptions surrounding the environmental impact of plastics. Join us for a conversation about corporate America’s plastic policies, recycling, and what the future of real sustainability looks like.

Check out Chris’ work here: plasticsresearchcouncil.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisdearmitt/

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In Ep. 111, David Bahnsen returns to the podcast to discuss how high-achievers struggle to relate to the church, how the lessons of God’s creation carry a call to human ambition, and other lessons sparked from his recent book Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life.

Check out David’s recent book here: https://www.fulltimebook.com/

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Oklahoma State Treasurer Todd Russ gave this speech at Lululemon's annual meeting of shareholders recently, defending a shareholder proposal urging the company to back away from partnering with non-fiduciary corporate activist groups like the Human Rights Campaign, and take seriously the controversy caused by the company's previous donations to radical organizations like Black Lives Matter & Reclaim the Block (which called for the defunding of the Minneapolis Police Department). We present Treasurer Russ' speech here for our listeners.

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