Melissa Sevigny is an award-winning science journalist at Arizona Public Radio and author of the amazing new book Brave the Wild River, which won the 2023 National Outdoor Book Award for History in Biography. In this episode, Justin and Melissa discuss how she came across the story of Lois Jotter and Elzada Clover, two women who made history by mapping the botany of the Grand Canyon during a 1938 expedition, the challenges they faced as women in science, and some of the current environmental challenges facing the Grand Canyon.

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