Doug chats with Rusty about the mental and emotional aspects of committing to leaving traditional work, focusing on mindset and building an identity outside of professional life.  They discuss the challenges of transitioning from being highly productive to a more relaxed lifestyle, the importance of taking all allotted vacation time, and asking for what you want from your employer.  Rusty also touches on mental health therapies such as body-based trauma therapy and somatic therapy as tools for coping with the stress and trauma associated with demanding careers.

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0:00 Introduction

1:55 Identity & career transition

6:21 Mindset shift

11:35 Building an identity separate from work

16:59 Productivity

24:00 Importance of taking vacation

30:18 Traveling & cultural perspectives on work

38:06 Recurring dreams & nightmares

43:33 Body-based trauma therapy

49:40 Negotiating with employers

56:43 Soundcheck – One car household