A special episode of the podcast as we visit the presentation day for the Metbionet Metabolic Minds leadership programme to hear about a plan to safeguard the future of specialist biochemistry services in the UK. Dr Rachel Carling explains the programme and then we hear from three of the course candidates, Dr Alana Burns, Annabel Wong and Freya Hassall about their projects on LSD testing, troubleshooting MS/MS and handling measurement uncertainty.