In this podcast with Michael Coté, who works at Pivotal in technical marketing, he and The New Stack founder Alex Williams talk about current production systems and development environments for building applications. According to Coté, Pivotal describes these new systems and environments as “cloud native.”

Over the course of this interview, Coté discusses best practices and illustrates three requirements for cloud native development and deployment: utilizing the patterns of microservices architecture, implementing a DevOps approach, and striving for continuous delivery as the primary vehicle for software delivery.

Coté (@cote on Twitter) has been an industry analyst at 451 Research and RedMonk, and he has worked in corporate strategy and M&A at Dell, in both software and cloud. He was a programmer for a decade before all of that. Also a former co-host of The New Stack Analysts podcast, Coté currently blogs and podcasts at Cote.io.