In the New York Times bestseller This Is Your Mind on Plants—now out in paperback—Michael Pollan radically challenges the way we think about all drugs, from psychedelics to tea and coffee, and explores the powerful human attraction to psychoactive plants and their equally powerful taboos. In conversation with Ari Shapiro, a host of NPR’s “All Things Considered.”

This program was held on July 21, 2022 in partnership with Politics and Prose.