Our guest this week is best-selling author Michael Shellenberger who gave the closing remarks at this year's Sacramento policy conference. Michael is the author of San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities and Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All. He is cofounder of the California Peace Coalition, an alliance of parents of children killed by fentanyl, parents of homeless addicts, and recovering addicts. Michael is a leading investigative journalist who has broken major stories on crime and drug policy as well as homelessness.