Tocarra Elise returns to guest host and welcomes her The List podcast co-host Quincie Zari to dive into “Checking In: How Getting Real About Depression Saved My Life and Can Save Yours,” the memoir of singer and actor Michelle Williams. Together, they trace Michelle’s rise to superstardom as a member of Destiny’s Child and explore her mental health journey through depression and self-doubt. Plus: the viral “106 & Park” fall, her reality TV romance, and the big question… did we finally find a book Tocarra actually enjoyed? Listen to find out!

A content warning: This episode contains discussions of sensitive topics, including suicidal ideation, depression, and negative self-talk. Take care while listening and find helpful resources here.

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