Migrating mainframe apps to cloud is a daunting journey, but there's a growing need to modernize. In this episode, David Linthicum talks with Deloitte's Bjoern Langmack and AWS's Hemant Ahire about how companies can successfully transition from mainframe to cloud. The challenges are myriad, but not insurmountable. The group's advice: Automate as much as you can in the migration process, use the right tools, and try to disrupt the business as little as possible during the migration