Summary

In this episode of the Phillip Wylie Show, Phillip Wylie and Michael Lisi discuss their backgrounds in hacking and penetration testing, the importance of diverse experiences in the tech field, and the value of certifications like OSCP. They also explore pathways into offensive security, the mission of the Red Team Village, and the role of Capture The Flag (CTF) competitions in learning. The conversation emphasizes the significance of networking and community involvement in the cybersecurity industry.

Takeaways

• Michael Lisi shares his journey into hacking, starting from building computers as a teenager.

• The importance of sharing origin stories to motivate others in the cybersecurity field.

• Diverse experiences in IT roles can enhance skills in penetration testing.

• The OSCP certification provides valuable hands-on experience, but the landscape of certifications is evolving.

• Networking and community involvement are crucial for career advancement in cybersecurity.

• The Red Team Village aims to raise awareness and provide skill development in offensive security.

• CTFs are beneficial for learning but should not be the sole focus of skill development.

• Exploring different roles can help individuals find their true interests in cybersecurity.

• The importance of understanding business operations for effective penetration testing.

• Volunteering and participating in events can lead to valuable connections and opportunities.

Sound Bites

• "I didn't have a plan to be a hacker."

• "Don't shy away from some of those other roles."

• "You want to be as efficient as possible."

Resources

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelisi/

https://x.com/MikeHacksThings

https://malteksolutions.com/

https://redteamvillage.io/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:27 Hacker Origin Story

06:48 The Importance of Diverse Backgrounds

12:59 The Role of OSCP in Career Development

16:47 Pathways into Offensive Security

19:14 Overview of the Red Team Village

22:19 The Value of CTFs in Cybersecurity