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Steven Kotler is a New York Times-bestselling author, an award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance. You can grab a copy of his new highly nutritious book, The Art of Impossible here.

In this mind meld, we riff about the art and science of setting better goals, creativity, the importance of flow, why meaning is of paramount importance, and more.

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