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In this week’s episode, we’re exploring the Tube Girl trend taking over TikTok at the moment. We’ll first cover who the original Tube Girl is, what the trend is and how it started, before we dive into why it became so popular and some of the major criticisms of the Tube Girl trend– like how this phenomenon reflects who in society is allowed to be loud & shameless in public. 

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Timestamps:

1:42 Who is Sabrina Bahsoon?

3:20 How and why Sabrina started TikTok's Tube Girl trend

9:04 Sabrina's recent brand collaborations & career opportunities off the back of the Tube Girl trend

11:42 Why did the Tube Girl trend blow up?

25:05 Tube Girl trend criticism & will she stick around?

Resources:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/cringe-creators-gen-z-authenticity-1234711493/

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/11/1192987300/oshae-sibley-stabbed-voguing-beyonce

https://www.tiktok.com/@journeytothepage/video/7280867341888425248?lang=en&q=journeytothepage&t=1695603901799

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-21/who-is-tube-girl-internet-star-confidence-tiktok-social-media/102884362 

https://www.tiktok.com/business/library/TH_WhatsNext_Final.pdf

https://www.tiktok.com/@nomoredanny/video/7281885086599941406?_t=8fycobLbkDS&_r=1

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-66823675 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-21/who-is-tube-girl-internet-star-confidence-tiktok-social-media/102884362 

https://mashable.com/article/tiktok-tube-girl 

https://www.vulture.com/2023/09/tube-girl-sabrina-bahsoon-tiktok-interview.html 

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Timestamps:

23:50 Brianna Chickenfry apologises to Trisha Paytas for mocking her OnlyFans content

30:09 Fans call Landon Barker a “red flag” after D’Amelio Show clip goes viral 

36:32 Alix Earle addresses Braxton Berrios cheating rumours on Call Her Daddy podcast 

44:09 Madelyn Cline & Pete Davidson are allegedly dating

48:44 Taylor Swift spotted attending Kansas City Chiefs game in Travis Kelce’s suite

Resources:

https://centennialworld.com/brianna-chickenfry-apology-trisha-paytas-onlyfans-barstool-naked-house-tour-video-mock/

https://centennialworld.com/fans-call-landon-barker-red-flag-after-damelio-show-clip-goes-viral-charli-damelio-season-3-wake-up-grammys/

https://centennialworld.com/alix-earle-addresses-braxton-berrios-cheating-rumours-call-her-daddy-alex-cooper/

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/sophia-culpo-can-i-talk-my-s-t-again/id1675375857?i=1000628540674

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/pete-davidson-is-dating-madelyn-cline-after-chase-sui-wonders-split/

https://people.com/taylor-swift-spotted-kansas-city-chiefs-game-amid-travis-kelce-dating-rumors-7970703 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nfl/nfl-2023-taylor-swift-spotted-at-kansas-city-chiefs-game-dating-travis-kelce-celebrates-touchdown-reaction-video/news-story/18d131b4887315be563ff6ebdfe3a211

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In this week’s episode, we dive into the world of anti-fans, gossip forums & snark Reddit. If you’ve listened to our podcast for a while, you’ll know we’ve covered fandom culture from a few different angles, so this week we’re bringing you the flip side of this conversation– exploring the anti-fans and snarkers who spend their time criticising, dissecting, and sometimes bullying influencers and celebrities in online forums. We first cover what a gossip forum & snark Reddit is, how it relates to the more commonly-known hate-watching or hate-following, the psychology behind these behaviours, and then look at some examples of when they’ve had a positive impact but also times these forums have gone too far.

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Timestamps:

02:18 Why we chose this topic

03:43 What is a gossip forum/snark Reddit?

11:35 What is hate-watching/hate-following?

15:16 The psychology behind hate following and snarking

23:43 Markers of snarkers

35:00 What leads people to become anti-fans?

45:11 Why do people snark vs. stan?

55:52 Examples of Snark communities going too far

1:00:12 Examples of times Snark communities have had a positive impact

1:02:25 Should snark Reddit & gossip forums exist?

Resources:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.reddit.com/r/tiktokgossip/comments/101twtm/list_of_all_snark_subs/&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1695123310850416&usg=AOvVaw1zpCK6VhiGXJkS12ARi995

https://time.com/6284907/duggar-shiny-happy-people-snark-subreddits/ 

https://every.to/cybernaut/the-anti-fan-phenomenon 

https://www.stylist.co.uk/health/mental-health/hate-following-social-media/490098 

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/the-psychology-behind-why-we-hatefollow-people-on-social-media-b1837751.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-psychology-behind-why-we-hate-watch_l_61bcecede4b04b42ab5fa761 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/93akvp/why-hate-watching-tv-movie-social-media-explained-psychology 

https://www.vox.com/culture/23733213/fandom-purity-culture-what-is-proship-antiship-antifandom 

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2007/apr/22/features.magazine47

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0YP7rsP0fTM4M2MM48BbGz?si=a95e7cec8f5c40d9

https://centennialworld.com/trisha-patyas-snark-subreddit-trishyland-permanently-banned/

https://centennialworld.com/why-do-we-hate-watch-influencers/ 

https://www.insider.com/blogsnark-subreddit-influencers-criticism-members-2022-4 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/13oraj7/what_is_the_psychology_behind_singlecelebrity/ 

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Timestamps:

14:40 Madelyn Cline and Kelsea Ballerini show each other support & squash Chase Stokes drama rumours

18:00 JoJo Siwa breaks silence on Colleen Ballinger cancellation, Trisha Paytas responds 

28:46  Colleen Ballinger’s ex-husband Joshua David Evans speaks out about his role in her problematic career history

42:07 Sneako meet and greet goes viral after video surfaces of fans yelling hateful comments 

51:19 Fashion influencer @moxeb faces backlash for screaming at publicist at NYFW event

Resources:

https://www.tiktok.com/@larissasalazarr0/video/7279224695902326062?_t=8fmMFv04pBH&_r=1 

https://centennialworld.com/jojo-siwa-breaks-silence-colleen-ballinger-cancellation-trisha-paytas/ 

https://centennialworld.com/colleen-ballinger-ex-husband-joshua-david-evans-speaks-out-youtuber-swoop-accountability/

https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-what-i-done-sneako-shocked-hearing-young-fans-misogynistic-homophobic-transphobic-comments 

https://www.reddit.com/r/NYCinfluencersnark/comments/16if1kv/anyone_know_what_happened/ 

 https://www.reddit.com/r/NYCinfluencersnark/comments/16jo1hr/the_response/

This week we are so excited to share a special bonus episode— an interview with Madison Beer about the release of her second studio album, Silence Between Songs!

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In this week’s episode, we’re taking a look at some of the best and worst Kardashian-Jenner PR relationships over the years— like Kourtney & Justin Bieber, Kim & Shengo, Rob & Chyna, Kendall & Bad Bunny, and of course, Kylie & Timothee Chalamet. We’ll first cover what a PR relationship is, why celebrities might choose to enter into one, and then dive into the Kardashian-Jenners' history of PR relationships, including some relationships that were thought to be PR... but turned out to be more. 

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Timestamps:

4:26 What is a PR relationship?

8:36 The origins of Kardashian-Jenner PR relationships

15:11 Khloe & French Montana

17:12 Khloe & Trey Songz

19:26 Kourtney & Justin Bieber

24:50 Rob & Blac Chyna

33:24 Kim & Kris Humphries

41:42 Kim & Shengo !!

45:41 Kim & Pete

53:11 Kendall & Bad Bunny

59:08 Kylie & Cody Simpson

1:01:55 Kylie & Timothee Chalamet

Resources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_marriage

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a43600106/kylie-jenner-timothee-chalamet-relationship-timeline-photos/

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kourtney-kardashian-justin-bieber-how-their-hot-hookups-began-w159939/ 

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kris-humphries-in-a-great-place-after-kim-kardashian-split-201272/

https://people.com/tv/rob-kardashian-and-blac-chyna-relationship-timeline/ 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.teenvogue.com/story/justin-bieber-kourtney-kardashian-interview&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1694599815013411&usg=AOvVaw0rSeicXbSjlzlrCftBp7pb 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2160892/Kim-Kardashian-tells-Oprah-nearly-gave-life-spotlight-doomed-marriage.html 

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/celebrity/tv/shengo-deane-i-couldnt-keep-up-with-the-kardashians-24492 

https://www.vulture.com/2023/02/trey-songz-facing-25-million-lawsuit-alleged-rape.html 

https://www.capitalxtra.com/news/celebrity/kylie-jenner/dating-history-boyfriends/ 

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Timestamps:

3:16 Secrets of the Blue Zones recap

9:00 At Home with the Furys recap

12:30 RHONY recap

22:20 Alix Earle & Xandra Pohl potential friendship falling out

31:25 FaZe Clan has removed Lee Trink as CEO effective immediately 

38:03 Ruby Franke has first court hearing, blames child for her abuse

42:06 RawBeautyKristi faces backlash from drama channels for supporting James Charles

51:40 JoJo Siwa comes to Everleigh LaBrant’s defence over controversial song release

Resources:

https://centennialworld.com/alix-earle-xandra-pohl-friendship-drama/

https://www.dexerto.com/esports/faze-clan-terminates-ceo-lee-trink-as-stock-price-continues-to-plummet-2287194/

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/faze-clan-announces-leadership-transition-301922732.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ruby-franke-child-abuse-charges-court-hearing-utah-jodi-hildebrandt-you-tube/

https://centennialworld.com/rawbeautykristi-faces-backlash-from-drama-channels-for-supporting-james-charles/

https://www.distractify.com/p/everleigh-rose-like-taylor-swift-song

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/jojo-siwa-slams-online-bullying-about-everleigh-labrants-1st-song/

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/what-i-learned-being-target-internet-hate-age-13-ncna811601 

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In this week's episode, we deep dive into the family vloggers, Ruby and Kevin Franke, of the 8 Passengers YouTube channel. We first explore who Ruby and Kevin are, how they started the 8 Passengers channel, and their history of documenting their family on YouTube before looking at the channel’s several controversies over the years. We finish by diving into Ruby and Kevin’s ties with the cult-like self-improvement group, Connexions, which led to the dissolution of their YouTube channel, their family, and now their freedom–  as Ruby was arrested last week alongside the Connexions founder Jodi Hildebrandt on six counts of aggravated child abuse.

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Timestamps:

2:55 Who are the 8 Passengers?

5:37 The problem with family channels

21:47 The 8 Passengers' history of controversies

30:24 Instances when Ruby was abusive to her children over the years

35:02 Who is Jodi Hildebrandt & what is ConneXions?

48:30 Shari Franke ex-communicates her family & speaks out against ConneXions 

52:50 Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt are arrested on 6 counts of aggravated child abuse

Resources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25RLYeL9nA&ab_channel=SWOOP 

https://www.insider.com/8-passengers-youtube-drama-what-happened-franke-family-2020-6  

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ruby-franke-mom-8-passengers-youtube-channel-arrested-abuse-charges-rcna102852

https://www.insider.com/ruby-franke-8-passengers-arrested-on-suspicion-of-child-abuse-2023-8 

https://www.insider.com/kevin-franke-8-passengers-creator-ruby-franke-keep-children-together-2023-8 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIhNfPkZMsM&ab_channel=SpillSesh 

https://centennialworld.com/8-passengers-daughter-opens-up-about-ex-communicating-from-mother-ruby-franke-growing-up-on-youtube/ 

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Timestamps:

7:30 Summer House's Carl & Lindsay split

19:34 Alix Earle reportedly filming a family reality show

25:36 Jaclyn Hill addresses Marlena Stell & Jen Gerard accusations

40:18 Joe Jonas & Sophie Turner have reportedly been separated for 6 months

46:30 Tana Mongeau & Trisha Paytas address Colleen Ballinger situation together

49:35 Olivia Rodrigo addresses rumour that 'vampire' is about Taylor Swift

Resources:

https://centennialworld.com/earles-girls-everything-we-know-about-alix-earles-rumoured-reality-tv-show/

https://centennialworld.com/jaclyn-hill-addresses-marlena-stell-jen-gerard-accusations-reddit/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a44983356/joe-jonas-sophie-turner-divorce 

https://www.tmz.com/2023/09/03/joe-jonas-sophie-turner-divorce-lawyers-kids/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/02/olivia-rodrigo-overnight-pop-superstardom-plagiarism-growing-up-in-public 

https://ew.com/music/olivia-rodrigo-reacts-rumors-vampire-taylor-swift/

In this week’s episode, we dive into the career and controversies of Scooter Braun, Hollywood’s most notorious talent manager (33:03). This deep dive was inspired by reports that Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, J Balvin, Idina Menzel, and Demi Lovato are all leaving Scooter’s management stable SB Projects. We recap his career history, explore several of his public controversies with high-profile clients, and look at all the theories about why the Scooter Braun empire appears to be crumbling from the inside.

Timestamps: 

00:39 Only Murders In The Building season 3 recap

04:48 Shelter recap

13:55 Travis Barker unfollows Jaden Hossler amid rumoured rift 

19:56 Tana Mongeau & Bryce Hall feud 

30:35 Kylie Jenner planning to launch a ‘quiet luxury’ brand

33:03 The career & controversies of Scooter Braun: Hollywood’s most notorious talent manager

34:01 Who is Scooter Braun?

34:49 How Scooter became Hollywood’s most notorious talent manager

46:48 Kanye West vs. Scooter Braun

48:28 Ariana Grande & Scooter Braun 

58:00 Justin Bieber & Scooter Braun

1:06:30 Taylor Swift vs. Scooter Braun

1:15:23 Why is everyone allegedly leaving Scooter Braun?

1:23:35 Theories & our opinions

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https://centennialworld.com/travis-barker-unfollows-jaden-hossler-rift/ 

https://centennialworld.com/tana-mongeau-bryce-hall-friendship-feud-breakdown/ 

https://pagesix.com/2023/08/26/inside-kylie-jenner-kim-kardashians-big-fashion-face-off 

https://www.businessinsider.com/scooter-braun-profile-manager-bieber-ariana-grande-kanye-taylor-swift-2022-2 

https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/hollywood/i-cant-be-managed-when-kanye-west-openly-fired-usd-500-million-worth-scooter-braun-for-not-working-full-time-1236825 

https://www.businessinsider.com/scooter-braun-profile-manager-bieber-ariana-grande-kanye-taylor-swift-2022-2 

https://www.tiktok.com/@arianagrande/video/7271626069361315114?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=6899384367418131969 

https://twitter.com/velvetsqueendom/status/884630079028031488

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a24166207/ariana-grande-manager-scooter-braun-shitty-boyfriend-impact/

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ariana-grande-had-it-with-scooter-braun-before-briefly-firing-him/

https://genius.com/Ariana-grande-jasons-song-gave-it-away-lyrics

https://variety.com/2018/biz/news/scooter-braun-fired-by-ariana-grande-justin-bieber-kanye-west-1202990231/

https://twitter.com/YearWithoutRayn/status/1324987210853195776?s=20

https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/ariana-grande-ghostin-mac-miller-pete-davidson-song-meaning-explained-2459226

https://www.billboard.com/pro/ariana-grande-leaves-scooter-braun-management/

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