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Ministry Talks 7 - The Dark Side of the Church
6 realities that can make the church feel a little dark at times…
John 17:13-19 - foundation of light and dark, world and God’s people
Reality #1 - It will always be a challenge to help the world understand the church.
Reality #2 - The church itself exists in the world not outside of it.
- junk of the world will be in the church
- we will see both light and dark in the church
- joy (v. 13)
Reality #3 - People will struggle with sin in the church.
- we will see relationship issues, addiction, sexual immorality, gossip, hatefulness all around us
- we are not better people
- we will also see sin at church - need for boundaries
- sin of language is so common
- How do people yell, accuse, make fun of, fail to include? What else can you add?
- How do we repair the hurts and bring light with the Word?
- polarity of family and institution aspects of the church
Reality #4 - Spiritual warfare is most often experienced in relationships, especially deeply spiritual relationships.
- Colossians 3:9-15
Reality #5 - We really, really, really want to play favorites.
- James 2:1-4
- money yes, but also times, special groups of people, founders, members v nonmembers, worship preferences, knowledge, etc.
- how do we expect children or youth to be something they are not
Reality #6 - Everything feels so darn personal.
- 1 Thessalonians 2:9-12,19-20
- joy and life is better than the cerebral version, even when it’s dark and hard
Resources:
Built on the Rock - https://www.amazon.com/Built-Rock-Congregation-Ted-Kober/dp/0758658060
Simple Church - https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Church-Returning-Process-Disciples/dp/0805447997
Total Church - https://www.amazon.com/Total-Church-Radical-Reshaping-Community/dp/1433502089
Dangerous Calling - https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Calling-Confronting-Challenges-Pastoral/dp/1433535823
“Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved. May not copy or download more than 500 consecutive verses of the ESV Bible or more than one half of any book of the ESV Bible.”
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Ministry Talks 7 - The Dark Side of the Church
6 realities that can make the church feel a little dark at times…
John 17:13-19 - foundation of light and dark, world and God’s people
Reality #1 - It will always be a challenge to help the world understand the church.
Reality #2 - The church itself exists in the world not outside of it.
- junk of the world will be in the church
- we will see both light and dark in the church
- joy (v. 13)
Reality #3 - People will struggle with sin in the church.
- we will see relationship issues, addiction, sexual immorality, gossip, hatefulness all around us
- we are not better people
- we will also see sin at church - need for boundaries
- sin of language is so common
- How do people yell, accuse, make fun of, fail to include? What else can you add?
- How do we repair the hurts and bring light with the Word?
- polarity of family and institution aspects of the church
Reality #4 - Spiritual warfare is most often experienced in relationships, especially deeply spiritual relationships.
- Colossians 3:9-15
Reality #5 - We really, really, really want to play favorites.
- James 2:1-4
- money yes, but also times, special groups of people, founders, members v nonmembers, worship preferences, knowledge, etc.
- how do we expect children or youth to be something they are not
Reality #6 - Everything feels so darn personal.
- 1 Thessalonians 2:9-12,19-20
- joy and life is better than the cerebral version, even when it’s dark and hard
Resources:
Built on the Rock - https://www.amazon.com/Built-Rock-Congregation-Ted-Kober/dp/0758658060
Simple Church - https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Church-Returning-Process-Disciples/dp/0805447997
Total Church - https://www.amazon.com/Total-Church-Radical-Reshaping-Community/dp/1433502089
Dangerous Calling - https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Calling-Confronting-Challenges-Pastoral/dp/1433535823
“Scripture quotations are from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved. May not copy or download more than 500 consecutive verses of the ESV Bible or more than one half of any book of the ESV Bible.”

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