Matthew Petrusek joins the Tangent again to take a deep dive into utilitarianism, classical liberalism, libertarianism, progressivism (wokeism), and non-theistic conservatism. Perhaps most importantly, he, Matt and Fr. Sam discuss how each of these ideologies understand and live the experience of suffering. This is than contrasted with the Catholic understanding of suffering. They finish up the episode by discussing what it means to have a "culture of life".

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