More Morgellons

In this episode, Crystal gets distracted from the investigation to nerd out about a dead Italian neuroscientist whose name she cannot pronounce, explains why your brain is basically running malware that makes you afraid of the one thing that could help you, overshares about her butthole, makes a case for why the craziest sounding people in this community deserve a microphone just as much as the credible ones, references Jesus and Allen Dulles in the same train of thought then cuts it not because it sounds too crazy but because she ran out of tape, same reason she butchers a famous Arthur C. Clarke quote ya’ll will never hear, plays distracting background piano because low production quality is a tradition on MM, and then has the F-ing audacity to ask you to reach out when she already admitted she won’t respond for weeks. Also something about worms and the return of Christ. Standard Tuesday. If that is what day this really is.

If you’re lonely and this is hard and everyone thinks you’re nuts: moremorgellons.com. Go leave a message. She’ll get back to you. Eventually. Probably. Also, lovingly but getting almost a little annoyed at this point: Put the tweezers down.

Crystal is taking you all the way back. Before the foundation, before the name, before the RadioShack microscope origin story that never made sense anyway. Back to May 2001 — a home ISP page, a plea from a man named Wei-Nong Fu in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, asking the internet for help with his wife’s mystery illness. Sounds desperate. Sounds innocent. Except Fu is an electromagnetic field simulation engineer at ANSOFT Corporation, the company whose software models how EM fields behave inside complex structures. Including, theoretically, biological ones. Nowadays, he just happens to be an expert in implantable biosensors, back in China working as a professor. But in 2001, he recommends a specific microscope — the Bradford BVPM — to diagnose what he says is an unknown pathogen. That microscope was built by Robert W. Bradford, a man with no science degree who was later convicted of conspiracy, mail fraud, and whose unregulated drugs literally killed a patient. Bradford manufactured a Lyme epidemic to sell his product. His microscope is the diagnostic foundation of the earliest documented cases. And Fu’s Shanghai case studies? Linked on the Morgellons Research Foundation website within weeks of its registration. The Shanghai Cases weren’t discovered by the stay at home mom who ran the MRF. They were baked into the infrastructure at launch.
We trace the geographic cluster — Canonsburg, Pennsylvania (population: about 9,000, also home to ANSYS, the company that acquired ANSOFT for $832 million), Bethel Park right next door, the MRF registered in the same tiny corridor. We look at Mary Lato’s actual records versus the origin story. No licensure. No employment history. Research-grade fluorescence micrographs on the website that were absolutely not produced by a toy radioshack microscope. A domain registrant whose initials match a young man living in her household. A national letter-writing campaign that reached Obama, McCain, Clinton, and Feinstein — coordinated by a woman with no verifiable professional background. Three founding couples, none seemingly sharing a last name, in a condition where the statistical reality is that men leave at seven times the normal rate when women get seriously ill. Three for three devoted husbands isn’t a love story. It’s a casting pattern.
We also talk about what this means for you — right now, today. Crystal Clear makes the case that this has never behaved like a disease and the path forward isn’t medical, it’s political. The CDC found silica, polyethylene glycol, and cellulose together in samples and called them contaminants without further study. Contaminants or components — that question remains open. Havana Syndrome got the same playbook the morgies got: deny, diagnose delusions, dismiss. If they wouldn’t protect their own CIA officers, they’re not coming for us voluntarily. But pressure works. It always has. Ask Upton Sinclair. Ask the rats no longer ground up in your hamburger.
Speaking of pressure — Oklahoma State University received the MRF’s assets when it dissolved, including possibly a patient registry of approximately 12,000 self-reports. Crystal Clear filed an open records request 31 days ago. OSU has not responded. The portal won’t even publish the request. If you’d like to know what happened to your data — data you submitted, about your body, your experience — you might consider asking. Politely. Persistently. Because twenty years and two posters is not an answer.
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Moremorgellons.com | FOIA count: 49 and climbing

Mick West co-founded Neversoft Entertainment, programmed Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater, retired from Activision in 2003, and then did something nobody has ever forensically examined: he built Morgellons Watch, a website dedicated to convincing the public that Morgellons disease is a delusion. He wrote over 100 articles under the pseudonym “Michael.” He edited the Wikipedia Morgellons article under a second pseudonym, “Herd of Swine,” while lobbying for his own site to be cited as a credible independent source. His Wikipedia account was flagged for sockpuppetry. The site accumulated roughly 12,000 comments from 88 registered users — an average engagement rate of 20+ comments per user — on a condition mainstream medicine had already dismissed.

The site is still live in 2026. West says he lost interest around 2012.

This episode applies the same forensic standards to the counter-narrative that Uninvestigated has applied to the Morgellons Research Foundation. If the MRF’s IRS 990 filings, defense-connected board members, indicted grant recipient, and vanished 12,000-family patient registry warranted investigation, then the debunking apparatus that ran in parallel deserves identical scrutiny.

Crystal examines the cost-benefit problem: why a financially independent retired programmer with no medical or scientific training sustained a complex content operation for years on a single niche medical condition. She maps the pseudonym architecture: “Michael” on Morgellons Watch, “Herd of Swine” on Wikipedia, Mick West everywhere else — three identities, three platforms, one narrative project. She traces the timeline convergence: Morgellons Watch launched in April 2006, the exact month Congressional pressure toward a CDC investigation reached critical mass. And she identifies the open forensic threads that have never been pursued: historical WHOIS domain registration records for morgellonswatch.com, cross-domain registrant comparison with contrailscience.com and metabunk.org, IP address hosting history, and Wikipedia edit pattern analysis.

The episode also explores a remarkable synchronicity. West chose “Herd of Swine” from Mark 5 — the Gadarene demoniac narrative, where unclean spirits called “Legion” are cast into pigs that rush into the sea. Years later, independently and without knowledge of West’s username, Crystal drew a parallel between the Gadarene story and the Morgellons patient experience: the afflicted person dismissed as mad, the community that prefers chains to healing, the testimony nobody wants to hear. West named himself after the destruction vehicle. Crystal found the story from the testimony side. Same scripture. Opposite characters.

The episode closes with the 12,000 mirror: 12,000 families entered the MRF registry hoping their data would drive research. That registry was destroyed without public disclosure when the foundation dissolved in 2012. 12,000 comments accumulated on Morgellons Watch, a site engineered to ensure that anyone Googling their symptoms found dismissal before they found help. One apparatus collected testimony. The other buried it. Neither has been audited.

Open investigative threads: WHOIS forensics on morgellonswatch.com domain registration and hosting history. Wayback Machine timeline analysis. Cross-domain infrastructure comparison. Wikipedia edit history audit for User:Herd of Swine. Comment metadata analysis including timestamp patterns and user registration clustering. Financial trail from Neversoft/Activision exit through Committee for Skeptical Inquiry fellowship.

West built Morgellons Watch. Crystal built Westwatch. Somebody had to.

Well folks, 60 Minutes just confirmed that a classified U.S. intelligence mission recovered an actual directed-energy weapon — concealable, portable, silent, programmable, remote-operated, penetrates walls — and they tested it on animals in a military lab for over a year. It does what the victims said it does. So that’s fun.

Remember when these diplomats and spies with top-secret clearances and zero psychiatric history were told they were delusional? The FBI’s early assessment was “mass hysteria.” The 2023 intelligence community report — still officially standing — says it’s “very unlikely” a foreign adversary was responsible. There is now a weapon in a lab that says otherwise. Whoopsie.

A former CIA officer in the Anomalous Health Incidents unit — speaking publicly for the first time — describes being told the goal was to prove it was psychosomatic and environmental. He watched a senior AHI officer mock victims by simulating a stroke at a unit happy hour. That’s your tax dollars funding workplace comedy about brain injuries. Incredible.

Now here’s where it gets interesting for us. MKUltra didn’t pick subjects randomly. CIA started with their own people — hi Frank Olson — then military subjects at Edgewood Arsenal, then systematically pivoted to populations whose testimony would be automatically discredited. Psychiatric patients. Prisoners. Addicts at the Lexington Narcotic Farm. Sex workers at Operation Midnight Climax. The selection logic wasn’t random. It was about deniability.

Map that onto our population. Four hundred episodes of testimony. People institutionalized as adolescents. Boarding school kids. People flagged through giftedness testing — programs that sometimes trace back to federal or military funding pipelines. Musicians — internationally traveling, high sensory sensitivity, unusual venue-exposure profiles. Joni Mitchell talked about this and got demolished. Charles Holman, musician, MRF-connected, dead. Roy Houchin, musician, MRF board. Barbara Mandrell, musician. That’s not random. That’s a selection signature.

And “delusional parasitosis” does to this population exactly what “delusional” did to those intelligence officers. It’s both the effect and the cover. Self-sealing.

The CDC’s 2012 Kaiser Permanente study did the same thing as the 2023 intelligence assessment: produce an official finding, foreclose inquiry, move on. Same playbook, different decade, different agency.

Now — the archive we’ve built here is the only dataset that isn’t compromised or locked in a university vault. Speaking of which: Oklahoma State University, the MRF patient registry of 12,000 families is still missing. Open records request 26-100, filed February 23rd. No substantive response. If you donated data, money, or samples to the Morgellons Research Foundation or Randy Wymore at OSU, maybe give them a call.

And speaking of foreign actors — next episode we’re opening the Shanghai thread. Early Wayback captures of morgellons.org linked to a personal site documenting roughly ten cases in Shanghai, built by the husband of a woman with initials H.L. He worked at Ansoft Corporation — a Pittsburgh electromagnetic field simulation software company with offices in China — and used his Ansoft work email. They reportedly funded research at Fudan University into her case. Pittsburgh to Shanghai to Fudan. We’re going to verify every piece of it transparently.

The government closed their investigation. We didn’t. Stay tuned.

On today's show: A Correction: cat hair was found in diabetes drugs, not vaccines. Novo Nordisk’s $16.5 billion acquisition Catalent — FDA contamination at the Indiana facility.
Your host Crystal is a former clinical trials manager who read a Form 990 recreationally, and it ruined her life. Today we’re doing a forensic accounting of nothing.
THE MORGELLONS RESEARCH FOUNDATION IRS FILINGS
The Morgellons Research Foundation (MRF), "founded" by Mary Leitao, filed IRS Form 990 returns showing zero program service expenses. Not low. Zero.
2004 Form 990: $318 in contributions. $0 expenses.
2005 Form 990: $0 program expenses.
2006 Form 990: Missing. This is the peak year — national TV, maximum donations, phones ringing. That return has never been located. Revenue reported retroactively: ~$29,000.
MRF’s sole named grant recipient was Thornton/Thorstensen Labs. Operator Michael Carlson was later indicted on 51 counts of falsifying test results. The lab was already decertified by the time the grant was granted. The MRF patient registry — real people, real names — has never been accounted for. No response to date from 2.23.26 open records request to OHSU.
THE DOMAIN
morgellons.org was registered March 14, 2002 by [email protected] — not Mary Leitao, not any board member. That registrant possibly links to 2345.com, Chinese software infrastructure. Earliest site capture (June 5, 2002) lists a California fax number, contact [email protected], and web designer Amy DiFerrari.
DOUGLAS EWING BUCKNER SR —Fake DOCTOR
Douglas Buckner is listed as Vice President of the MRF board and identified as “Dr. Douglas Buckner PhD” on federal tax documents, in the Washington Post Magazine, and on Coast to Coast AM (February 2005). He is not a doctor. No MD. No PhD. No dissertation, residency, license, or verifiable work history. Born July 1946, Tennessee. Lived in Waycross, Georgia 35 years. Now on his father’s land in Montgomery County, Tennessee. Bankruptcy filing, tax lien on record. His wife Janelle Fossen is the MRF board secretary. Two board seats, one household.
On the 2005 Coast to Coast broadcast, host George Noory calls him a physician and Doctor repeatedly. Buckner never corrects him. He describes Morgellons symptoms accurately but frames the fibers as visually bizarre. They’re not — they look like common textile fibers. The actual anomaly is fibers embedded under intact skin and emerging from wounds. The paranormal framing is intentionally discrediting perhaps, guilty as charged.
KENNETH COWLES — DIED IN HIS SLEEP AT 53
Kenneth Cowles served as MRF Director of PR and Media, unpaid. Day job: production assistant on Guiding Light. He says he found Morgellons by sending a mass email looking for a story and hearing back from a woman in Tacoma, Washington. Didn’t believe her at first. Eventually did. That led him to Mary Leitao.
From a soap opera set, Cowles placed Morgellons on KTVU Fox San Francisco, stations in Reno and Houston, and in 2006 on ABC News prime time and NBC. Correction: the rumored $10,000 plane ticket to Tulsa and $2,000 phone bill were Kenneth Cowles, not Dale Cowler.
Kenneth Cowles died October 2007, age 53. “Peacefully in his sleep,” per Mary Leitao. Forty-eight days after Charles E. Holman, former MRF chairman, died at 54. Holman had asked Mary for access to the financial statements and was refused. Mary’s husband Edward Leitao died at 54 of cardiac arrest months before she incorporated the MRF. Three men connected to this foundation. All dead in their 50s. Nobody wrote about it.
MRF BOARD: William T. Harvey (chairman, NASA), Mary Leitao (founder), Douglas Buckner (VP, not a doctor), Dale Cowler (CPA/treasurer), Janelle Fossen (secretary, Buckner’s wife), Kenneth Cowles (PR, deceased), Charles E. Holman (former chair, deceased).
OSU open records request 26-100 filed February 23, 2026 — no response. Death certificates not known for Edward Leitao, Charles Holman, Kenneth Cowles.
moremorgellons.com

In this episode, Crystal Clear responds to the most recent major English-language feature article on Morgellons disease — “For a Rare Disorder, Is Language Complicating Care?” published February 24, 2026, by Undark. Crystal summons her inner Karen and things get ridiculous.

The new Morgellons article proposes that renaming delusional parasitosis could improve patient compliance with antipsychotic treatment. The problem: there has never been a single randomized controlled trial evaluating any treatment for Morgellons. Not antipsychotics. Not antibiotics. Not anything. We break down what the article gets wrong, what it deliberately omits, and why linguistic rebranding is not a substitute for science.

Plus: a new morgie message from a listener in Milwaukee.

Links for the article and to leave a message for the show:

Undark article: https://undark.org/2026/02/24/morgellons-language-complicating-care/

More Morgellons: https://moremorgellons.com

“P.s. no matter what daddy google tells you, this isn’t a lyme disease podcast and never has been.”-CC

Morgellons disease has been searched more in Portland, Oregon than any other city on Earth for 22 consecutive years according to Google Trends data from 2004 to present. Portland scores 100 on the search interest index. Seattle is second at 86. Boca Raton Florida third at 80. By country the United States leads at 100, Canada 76, Austria 57, Italy 53, Germany 50.

No published paper on Morgellons disease has ever investigated the geographic clustering of cases in Portland Oregon. This episode asks why.

Jesse Keller MD at Oregon Health and Science University OHSU is the only researcher in the United States conducting molecular bench science on Morgellons tissue. His 2023 paper in Archives of Dermatological Research found elevated oncostatin M expression in lesional skin biopsies of Morgellons patients compared to healthy controls. Oncostatin M is an inflammatory cytokine known to sensitize pain and itch neurons. His 2024 paper in British Journal of Dermatology documented that Morgellons patients report lower quality of life than patients with psoriasis atopic dermatitis and prurigo nodularis. Keller was featured on OPB Think Out Loud on March 10 2026 discussing Morgellons disease.

Referenced research: Keller Liu Latour 2023 Archives of Dermatological Research. Gipple Latour Keller Dhami 2024 British Journal of Dermatology. Pearson Vuolo Freire Merritt Klotter Maughan Montanez Amobi Middleton Dahlgren 2012 PLoS One CDC unexplained dermopathy study. Beuerlein Balogh Feldman 2021 Dermatology Online Journal. Akbarialiabad Salehi Murrell Jafferany 2025 Archives of Dermatological Research confirming zero randomized controlled trials exist for Morgellons treatment.

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Both morgellons.org and morgellons.com were registered March 14, 2002. The registrant was not Mary Leitao or her husband Edward Leitao (an internist who died suddenly two years later and whose name appears in no subsequent MRF publication, board filing, press release, or congressional testimony). The registrant is listed as “dkornsin” (K-O-R-N-S-I-N), with an associated email address of [email protected]. No Kornsin appears in Pennsylvania nonprofit records or Pennsylvania public address records from this period.

A user named “D. Kornsin” appears on BlackHatWorld, a black hat SEO forum, with a join date of January 2011 — resurfacing a decade later asking about domain resale value. The email cluster associated with the WHOIS data connects to Chinese software distribution infrastructure, specifically the 2345.com ecosystem — a major Chinese tech platform known in malware analysis circles for grey-zone adware distribution behind deliberately obscure registrant contacts. An associated email address, [email protected], also traces into that infrastructure.

The domain was made private in October 2017 — six years after the MRF officially dissolved. Someone was still maintaining it then, and someone is still maintaining it today.

The MRF Patient Registry and Dissolution

The MRF dissolution announcement, dated February 15, 2012, stated the organization was no longer active and not accepting registrations or donations. Remaining funds were donated to the Oklahoma State University Foundation to support Morgellons disease research. The dissolution was filed using IRS Form 990-N, the minimum possible instrument, available only when gross receipts fall below $50,000. No program descriptions, no asset disposition schedule, no documentation of what happened to organizational property.

The patient registry — containing self-reported onset dates, locations, symptom profiles, occupational information, and geographic clustering data from over 12,000 families across all 50 states and at least 15 countries — has no documented public disposition. Its transfer to OSU, if it occurred, left no public trace.

Historical Source Material: Mick West / Morgellons Watch

The episode references a 2007 post from Mick West’s Morgellons Watch site with 101 comments, and reads from a post by a commenter identified as “Nissi,” who described receiving 177 viruses from Morgellons-related websites, identified by her husband — the owner of a communications company who had previously been recruited by the FBI. Full coverage of Mick West’s role is flagged for a dedicated future episode.

Andrew Huff / EcoHealth Alliance Connection

The episode references prior season coverage of Andrew Huff’s FOIA request and his allegation that Peter Daszak, head of EcoHealth Alliance (the organization involved in gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology), told Huff he had been working with the CIA since 2015. Huff later retracted the FOIA request after reporting organized harassment by the U.S. government.

An open records request has been filed with Oklahoma State University (request 26-100) seeking documentation related to research agreements, contracts, MOUs, and CRADAs connected to Morgellons research — including any records related to the patient registry transfer. Response pending.

Names and Entities for the Record

Mary Leitao, Edward Leitao, dkornsin, [email protected], [email protected], 2345.com, BlackHatWorld, William T. Harvey, Virginia Savely, Greg Smith, Charles Holman, Kenneth Cowles, Cindy Casey, Mick West, Morgellons Watch, Morgellons Research Foundation, MRF, morgellons.org, morgellons.com, IRS Form 990-N, Oklahoma State University, Randy Wymore, Sherry Taylor, Andrew Huff, Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance, Wuhan Institute of Virology, CIA, FBI, NASA Johnson Space Center, NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, Office of Naval Research, Journal of Medical Case Reports.

https://youtube.com/shorts/gwHOQ477KXo?si=KvELgLokZpBComMJ

Crystal interviews a Doctor named Alistair Snide about why "self-diagnosed" is not a real methodological objection but rather a rhetorical one when it comes to researching this unexplained dermopathy. Then, she pivots to address the issue that so many of us have been or are currently seeking: the cure.

Crystal is back with bible quotes, an opening statement, a closing statement, and a jury duty summons for her listeners, especially those 0.2% who do not have Morgellons disease.

"Please prove I'm delusional and this is all just coincidences and not a multi-generational coverup related to the Pentagon, Trump's personal pal Geoff Pedepstein and the villain I used to make fun of people for calling a villain, Gill Baites . . ." -CC

And Crystal swore for six seasons that she was not "that person." It turns out "that person" was not entirely wrong on this matter, and that person is now feeding her the 50th serving of her own previously recorded words. Touche sans T and E.

Because reality as it turns out, is an irreal coincidence cascade that, along with the accidental, question-begging facts, converges into a strong circumstantial case for coverup and conspiracy.

"You be the judge." - CC