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Butterflies & moths are the same. Just like a pigeon & a parrot are both birds, butterflies & moths are both Lepidoptera, so why is there so much hate on moths & so much love for butterflies? Well maybe the name doesn't help BUT to help me talk about this & about moths of the UK is naturalist & author of Much Ado About Mothing, James Lowen.

From how many species, James's favourite & how moths have & continue to benefit our lives even away from the natural world!

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