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In the Season 2 FINALE Mini Series Episode, Eileen + Amy ask 4 questions to each other, the public (reading their responses) and past guests (sharing audio clips they sent in) from best and worst audition stories to cross-training to euphoric moments within the dance process to what they want to tell their bodies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of shared experiences and serves as a celebration of the journey and the lessons learned along the way (both within the industry and while reflecting on Season 2).

Resources / Mentions:

• Backstage
• Will Rogers Follies
• Lagree Fitness
• Walking for Good Health
• 5 Surprising Benefits of Walking
• Gyrokinesis / Gyrotonics
• Functional Range Conditioning / Mobility
• Crow (or Crane) Pose
• Wim Hof (Breathwork) Method
• Alexis Blake
• Ballet Hispanico
• Kolb’s 4 Stages of Learning
• Bill T Jones / Arnie Zane Company

Question Answer Order:
Auditions

• Hannah Seiden
• Lisa D. Long
• Jordan Eagle
• Erin Kei

Cross-training

• Hannah Seiden
• Lisa D. Long
• Angela Joy
• Jordan Eagle
• Erin Kei

Dance Euphoria

• Hannah Seiden
• Lisa D. Long

Body Talk

• Hannah Seiden
• Lisa D. Long
• Angela Joy

Outro

• Hannah Seiden

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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Guests: Eileen Kielty & Amy Kubat
Movement Artists / Alchemists / Podcast Hosts

In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy ask each other 2 questions each; engaging in a deep conversation about self-advocacy, personal growth, and the patterns they recognize in their dance and movement. They share personal stories of advocating for themselves in challenging situations, the importance of emotional awareness, and how their experiences shape their artistic expression. The discussion also touches on the significance of recognizing movement patterns and the relationship between emotions and physicality in dance. They explore the intricate relationship between movement, emotions, and self-expression in dance; discussing the importance of allowing the body to express itself without judgment, the role of emotions in choreography, and the necessity of understanding and feedback in the creative process. This episode emphasizes the significance of staying present with one's internal patterns and the impact of external perceptions on self-expression culminating in a reflection on the need for understanding and validation in artistic endeavors, highlighting the profound connection between movement and emotional truth.

This episode comes with an activation warning; please take care of your body.

Eileen (she/her) is a queer multi-disciplinary artist, teacher & performer as well as a clairsentient intuitive movement coach. She has degrees in both dance & psychology as well as extensive training in somatic integration, embodiment & intimacy practices & is passionate about consent-driven spaces with an emphasis on social justice. Eileen has held countless positions within the arts, fitness, wellness & educational space....

Amy (she/her) is a movement artist based out of California. She has received her AA, BA, and MFA in Dance as well as certifications in Acrobatic Arts, Function Range Conditioning and is working toward her certification in Bodymind Dancing. Amy has followed her heart and instincts over her 20 year career into a vast and wide ranging assortment of dance techniques and jobs...

For Eileen + Amy's full bios, click HERE.

Mentions / Follow:

• S1E10: Amy Interview
• S1E11: Eileen Interview
• Window of Tolerance - check out S2E6: Nervous System Mini Series

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the contrasting dance cultures of New York and Los Angeles, discussing the pressures dancers face when choosing between the two coasts. They delve into the dynamics of the dance industry, the impact of representation, and the challenges of auditions in LA through Amy's experiences. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding one's own path in the dance world, the sunk cost fallacy, and the evolving opportunities available to dancers. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy discuss the complexities of the dance industry, particularly focusing on the differences between working in LA and New York. They highlight the lucrative opportunities available, the harsh realities dancers face, and the scarcity mindset prevalent in the industry. The discussion also touches on the importance of community, the challenges of making choices in a saturated market, and the dangers faced by performers during events like the Thanksgiving Day Parade.

Resources / Mentions:

• Episode 22 Slideshow
• Ariana DeBose 75th Tony Awards Opening Number
• AGVA
• Body Traffic
• LADP
• Summation Dance
• CalArts
• Heidi Duckler Dance
• Diavolo
• Julia’s Episode
• Pilot Season is the entertainment industry's prime time for launching new shows. It's when networks and streaming services are searching for fresh faces and new talent to bring their latest projects to life.
• Kristin Chenoweth is the Original “Glinda” in Wicked

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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Guest: Angela Joy
Music Enthusiast

In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy speak with Angela as she shares her experiences in the arts, the impact of her upbringing, and the significance of music and comedy in her life. The discussion delves into the challenges of the audition process, the importance of resilience, and the sacred nature of creative expression. In this conversation, they discuss the complexities of navigating the dance industry, focusing on the balance between improvisation and structure, the importance of recognition and support in auditions, and the struggle for authenticity in a competitive environment. Angela emphasizes the need for dancers to embrace their unique voices while also addressing the emotional labor involved in auditions; touching on the joy of collaboration and the power of specificity in storytelling through dance, culminating in a reflection on the intersection of faith and creativity. The profound connection between creativity, spirituality, and the human experience is explored as well as Angela's journey of self-discovery amidst the constraints of a conservative upbringing and the challenges of the dance industry. Themes of body image, church trauma, and the importance of inclusivity in performance art are covered as well as the need for a shift in the narrative surrounding dance, advocacy for a celebration of passion over physical appearance and a more inclusive approach to casting and storytelling in the arts.
 
Angela (she/her) loves music, the language of movement, and drawing faces on her kneecaps. Soli Deo Gloria.

Follow / Resources / Mentions:
IG: @joybecause
Website: https://www.angela-joy.com/

• MTV’s “Say It In Song” was the name of the flash mob show.
• Wendy Seyb
• Michael Mindlin
• Post Modern Jukebox: “The Thong Song”
• Gaga
• “Images & Idols” Book
• “Wired for Music” Book
• Rita Moreno - “Anita” in West Side Story discusses brownface
• Lauren Anderson

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the nuanced differences between practice, rehearsal, and performance within the creative process, through the lens of dance and movement artistry. They emphasize the importance of personal investment in practice, the collaborative nature of rehearsal, and the execution of artistry in performance. The discussion highlights the need for intentionality in each phase to foster growth and connection with the audience. They go on to explore the often overlooked contributions of ensemble dancers, the evolving dynamics of dance training, and the impact of social media on dance careers; emphasizing the need for a clear distinction between practice, rehearsal, and performance, and advocating for valuing the artistic process and self-worth in the dance industry. This episode highlights the challenges dancers face in a rapidly changing environment and the importance of recognizing their artistry and contributions within and without it.

Resources / Mentions:

• Episode 20 Slideshow
• Instagram reel that inspired this episode.
  • @bunmisimple
• Cyd Charisse
• Ariana DeBose
• Charli D’Amelio
• S2E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers see themselves?

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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Guest: Caileigh Scott
Performer / Storyteller / Movement Artist

In this week's interview episode, Eileen and Amy talk with Caileigh Scott and explore the journey of reconnecting with dance after illness, the multifaceted identity of movement artists, and the importance of sensitivity in performance. They discuss the integration of various artistic expressions, the role of vulnerability in creativity, and the significance of feedback in the arts. The conversation highlights the everyday inspirations that move artists and the need for understanding and empathy in the creative process. They also dive into their journeys as dancers, focusing on the challenges and triumphs of navigating their height, body image, and the impact of feedback in dance. Caileigh shares personal experiences related to her breast cancer diagnosis and treatment and how it has shaped her relationship with her body and movement. The dialogue explores themes of self-acceptance, the pressure of societal expectations, and the importance of taking up space in the dance world; emphasizing the need for validation and the empowerment that comes from embracing one's unique movement style. The mind-body connection in healing and the necessity of being an ally to one's body is discussed and what redefining success in the dance industry, advocating for inclusivity, and creating welcoming spaces for all body types in dance looks like.
 
Caileigh (she/her) is a storyteller and movement artist whose creative practices include acting, writing, comedy, and dance. She is also a social impact producer committed to elevating the voices of women and nonbinary folks.

Activation Warning: Sensitive topics discussed, please take care of your body.

Follow / Resources / Mentions:
IG: @caileighscott
Website: Project Self

• Kim Hale
• “Fancy” by Reba McEntire
• “Rising Strong” by Brené Brown
• Beth Nicely
• Sutton Foster
• Onco-Ballet Foundation - FREE classes for cancer survivors
• Breast Cancer Resources

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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PART 2: In this conversation, Eileen and Amy explore the intricate relationship between fascia, emotions, and physical sensations. They discuss how fascia serves as a support system for the body, its role in chronic pain that often leads to acute injury, and how emotional trauma can manifest physically. The episode also emphasizes the importance of understanding the body's signals and the need for somatic practices to heal and re-pattern the mind-body connection.

This is a Two Part Episode.
Part 1: Episode 16 on 10.23.24
Part 2: Episode 18 on 11.6.24

Resources / Mentions:

• Episode 16 & 18 Slideshow

Support the show

M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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Guest: Nora Schell
Actor / Singer / Songwriter

In this interview episode, we speak with Nora on navigating the complexities of the arts industry discussing their experiences with mental health, body positivity, and the importance of community support. The conversation delves into the challenges of being a performer, the role of advocacy in the arts, and the impact of negative feedback on self-esteem. Nora emphasizes the need for change within the industry and the importance of creating safe spaces for artists. They share the impact of their medical challenges on their career and the need for support and solidarity amongst their colleagues. Experiences with toxic education in the performing arts and the challenges of advocating for oneself in a high-pressure environment are touched on as well as the importance of kindness and growth in the industry, the privilege of being an educator and the responsibility that comes with it.
 
Nora (they/them) graduated from The University of Michigan with a BFA in Musical Theatre and a minor in Gender, Race and Nation. They received Drama Desk, Drama League and Clive Barnes Award nominations for their Off-Broadway debut in SPAMILTON. Nora made their Broadway debut in JAGGED LITTLE PILL. They were most recently seen Off-Broadway playing Bustopher Jones in CATS: THE JELLICLE BALL. Nora will be performing all original music at the Perelman Center's Lobby Stage on November 2nd. Nora continues to cultivate a career focused on the intersection of performing and social justice. Love to Gregg Baker Management and their family.

Follow / Resources / Mentions:
IG: @noraschellmusic
Nora’s Statement I PCOS I NAMI I Spamilton I Cats: “The Jellicle Ball” I Bipolar 2 Disorder I Borderline Personality Disorder I Drama Desk Awards I Drama League Awards I Clive Barnes Foundation I Bryan Perri

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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PART 1: This conversation delves into the complexities of injury prevention within the dance industry. The hosts discuss the high prevalence of injuries, the impact of collective trauma, and the importance of understanding both physical and emotional aspects of injury. They emphasize the need for a holistic approach to injury prevention, including awareness of muscle engagement, the role of touch in learning, and the significance of mindfulness in movement practices. The discussion also highlights the differences between chronic and acute injuries and the necessity of adapting teaching methods to individual body patterns. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy touch on the intricate relationship between body mechanics, self-perception, and the importance of proper training in dance; emphasizing the need for dancers to understand their unique body patterns, the significance of warm-ups, hydration, and breath awareness, and the role of mobility and joint training in preventing injuries. This episode encourages curiosity and self-discovery, highlighting that the process of learning and understanding one's body is as crucial as the end product in dance training.

This is a Two Part Episode.
Part 1: Episode 16 on 10.23.24
Part 2: Episode 18 on 11.6.24

Resources / Mentions:

• Episode 16 & 18 Slideshow
• Jordan Eagle Episode
• Lisa Long Episode
• Laban / Bartenieff Movement System

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M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

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Guest: Jordan Eagle
Performer

In this interview episode, Eileen and Amy interview Jordan Eagle, a multifaceted performer and photographer. They discuss Jordan's journey in the arts, the pressures of identity within the performance industry, and the importance of community and storytelling. Jordan shares her journey with photography, her inspirations, and the nuances of supporting artists. The conversation also touches on the realities of being a performer, the challenges of navigating the industry, and the benefits of cross-training for physical well-being. In this conversation, there is an emphasis on the significance of rest and cross-training for dancers and the importance of both mobility and flexibility. Jordan shares her personal experiences with weightlifting, injury recovery, and the psychological impacts of being a dancer. The discussion also highlights the need for a supportive community and the normalization of comebacks in the dance industry, as well as the importance of understanding one's identity beyond physical capabilities.

Jordan (she/her) is a musical theatre performer based in NYC. She has a degree in dance performance and choreography as well as Creative Writing. Over the years Jordan has performed regionally and in NYC cabaret clubs, taught dance and voice, and run her own photography business. Jordan currently works as a copywriter for Dancers Who Lift, a company dedicated to educating and empowering dancers in their nutritional and cross-training journeys.

Follow / Learn More / Mentions:
IG: @jordan.anne.eagle / @j.eaglephotography
TikTok: @jordan_anne_eagle
Website: https://jeaglephotography.com/

• Avalon Artists Group
• Gavin Creel
• Enneagram Test
• Mims Method Physical Therapy
• HSS - Jordan’s Surgeons
• Mary Linda Graham

Support the show

M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.
New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.

To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions

If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at [email protected]

*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.