As a Cursed Objects bonus, without an actual cursed object, we present a live recording of Dan in conversation about his brand new book Multitudes: How Crowds Made the Modern World, recorded with friend of the pod, the brilliant journalist Hettie O’Brien at Burley Fisher Books in London on 30 October 2024. 

Multitudes is out now, you can buy it here, or read various extracts and crowds-related articles on Dan’s substack here.

Hettie’s book Diminishing Returns will be published in 2026, and until then, you can read her incredible long reads and other journalism here at The Guardian.

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Theme music: Mr Beatnick

Artwork: Archie Bashford