When 5* event rider Matt Brown was finally listed as an alternate for the Rio Olympics, it was the realization of a life-long dream. It was also simultaneously the highest and lowest point of his career. He was in a position that he'd worked so hard for, made many sacrifices to get to, and yet, something didn't feel right.

"Someone within the sport recommended I do something… that was not legal. And I was seriously considering it. We had moved east, (my owners) had spent all this money, (my wife) had uprooted her life… it seemed unfair to not do everything I could (to get to the Olympics) when I was that close," he recalls.

The pressure was intense - pressure that had been building in dollars, in years, and in life decisions. The question of, 'What was all of that for if I don't reach the goal?' loomed large. But Matt made a choice, and he hasn't looked back.

It was a turning point in his life that changed the way he proceeds in his business, and he sheds light in this episode on the framework that allows he and his wife, FEI dressage rider Cecily Clark, to operate within a set of values that makes all of their decisions simple. Not always easy, but simple and clear.

In this episode, Caroline chats with Matt and Cecily about how the horse sport world can enter into a productive conversation about the ethical considerations of horse training. They discuss the delicate line of balancing our own personal goals and doing what's right for the horse. They discuss a horse in Matt's past that he wishes he could apologize to, and how they're ensuring they move forward in a way that serves as that apology with the horses they have now. They also shed some light and thoughtfulness on how we as a community can have this challenging conversation, and how we respond to abuse when we witness it in person, or online, and why humility can lead the way in taking action.

This is a beautiful conversation that can encourage you to stay true to yourself, get clear on what you want your life with horses to look like, and to be open to redefining your goals and dreams, even if they feel tightly held.

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