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In this episode we start to tackle the Plan of Salvation from an esoteric and Jungian-informed perspective. We discuss the correlation between Gnostic and Mormon views on the fall, Gnosticism's interpretation of this physical incarnation as the Matrix, the fall as an allegory for both psychedelics and Jung's concept of individuation, and the idea of Satan as our shadow self.
Link:
Adam and Eve and the mushroom - https://aworkstation.com/a-hallucinogenic-mushroom-in-the-garden-of-eden/
New to the podcast? Make sure you watch Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins:
https://youtu.be/5YBeMrR1seM
https://open.substack.com/pub/mormonsmysticsandmuons/p/mormonism-psychedelics-quantum-physics
Please rate, share, and get in touch at [email protected]!
Chapters
00:00 The Plan of Salvation
03:17 Parallels with Esoteric Traditions
04:42 Gnosticism, Creation, and the Fall of Adam and Eve
07:20 The Demiurge and the Material Realm
09:13 The Serpent in the Garden of Eden
10:39 Gnosticism and Early Christianity
12:05 The Restorationist Movement's Fraught Relationship between Continuing Revelation and Claiming the Fullness of Truth
14:03 The Apocalypse of James and the Temple Endowment
14:57 The Gospel of Judas
18:26 The Fall as Jung's Individuation
22:50 The Fall as an Allegory for Psychedelics
28:24 The Matrix and the Fall From Paradise
31:12 Fig Leaves, the Atonement, and Spiritual Sovereignty
38:54 Conclusion
This episode is a reading of the initial post from the Mormons, Mystics, and Muons' Substack which gives a comprehensive overview of a new narrative on Mormonism's origins. It integrates consciousness, philosophy, psychedelics, and quantum physics to show how Mormonism arose out of an amalgamation of esoteric traditions and expanded or altered states of consciousness, and how science integrates with spirituality. While many truth claims of Mormonism are problematic, the argument over whether the religion is "true" or "false" presents a false dichotomy. Esoteric traditions captured fundamental truths owing to their reliance on states of consciousness and an emphasis on gnosis, or personal experience of truth. As an evolution of esoteric traditions, New Age Spirituality contains surprising parallels to Mormonism, of which many are entirely unaware, including Kolob, reincarnation, pansycheism, and more.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:08 Updating Frameworks
08:57 Overview
14:26 Disclaimer
17:46 Consciousness
34:49 Quantum Physics
36:55 Scientific Revolutions and Models of Understanding
39:11 The Double-Slit Experiment
42:25 The Many Worlds Interpretation
46:18 Entanglement
48:55 Quantum Field Theory
50:20 New Age Spirituality
52:23 Mormonism's Connections with New Age and Esoteric Traditions
53:53 The Eleusinian Mysteries
59:45 Mormonism's Connections with New Age
01:00:31 Reincarnation or Multiple Mortal Probations
01:01:38 Apocalypse of James - Gnostic Text with Similarities to the Endowment
01:02:15 The Book of Mormon, Automatic Writing, and Channeling
01:04:10 Mormonism's Gnostic View of The Fall
01:05:10 The Priesthood's Similarities to Reiki, a Form of Energy Healing
01:06:06 Eternal Progression, Becoming Gods, and Similarities to Esotericism
01:06:33 Kolob and Similarities to Sirius
01:08:03 A Celestial Earth and Similarities to New Age's 5D Transition
01:08:40 Noble and Great Ones and Similarities to Starseeds
01:09:24 Pre-Earth Life, Saturday's Warrier, the Veil, Soul Contracts, and Karma
01:10:40 Likely Use of Psychedelics in Early Mormonism
01:13:43 Temple Sealings and New Age Concepts of Oneness
01:14:14 The Adamic Language and New Age Light Language
01:14:39 Joseph's Translation of Scripture and Similarities to Contemporary Esoteric Texts
01:15:58 The Lost 10 Tribes and Hollow Earth
01:16:20 Polygamy and Polyamory
01:17:01 Zion, Being of One Heart and One Mind, and Oneness
01:17:16 The Word of Wisdom
01:17:23 Heavenly Mother, Shakti, Kundalini, and the Divine Feminine
01:17:33 Panentheism and Gaia
01:18:52 Family History and Ancestral Healing
01:19:06 Freemasonry
01:19:34 Melchezidek and Enoch
01:19:45 Degrees of Glory
01:20:43 First Vision Accounts and Joseph's Evolving God
01:21:52 Patriarchal Blessings and the Akashic Records
01:22:46 Priesthood Blessings and Channeling
01:23:50 Burning in the Bosom, Kundalini Energy, or Other Somatic Feelings of Energy
01:24:06 The Second Comforter
01:24:40 The Laws of Justice and Mercy, and the Hermetic Laws of the Universe
01:25:13 Mormonism and New Age Interest in Egyptians
01:25:51 Temple Work, Baptism for the Dead, Psychedelics, and the Zionitic Brethren of the Ephrata Cloister
01:26:47 Joseph Smith's Translation of the Bible and Channeling
01:27:12 Joseph's Teaching on Light, Intelligence, and the Correlation to Idealism
01:27:36 Transfiguration and Mystical Experiences
01:28:00 Joseph's Monism vs Idealism
01:28:13 Brigham Young's Teachings on the Origins on Adam and Eve, the Ra Material, and New Age Starseeds
01:28:59 Increasing in Brightness vs Raising One's Vibration
01:29:25 Mystical Experiences in the Doctrine and Covenants and the Mystical Experience Questionnaire
01:30:26 Conclusion
In this episode, Gabe and Elden embark on a profound exploration of mystical experiences and their intersection with Mormonism, psychedelics, and altered states of consciousness. They delve into the psychological definition of mystical experiences and discuss Joseph Smith's experiences, highlighting the potential connection to psychedelic experiences and automatic writing. The conversation extends into the integration of religion with science, examining Joseph Smith's life, including the role of trauma and the representation of religion as an evolutionary stage of human consciousness. They draw parallels between Mormonism and other religions, emphasizing the historical role of psychedelic sacraments and altered states in religious traditions. The hosts advocate for a growth mindset and open-mindedness, stressing the importance of exploring expanded states of awareness and the potential for personal transformation. They discuss reconstructing beliefs by integrating science, spirituality, and philosophy, offering a middle way beyond deconstruction that provides a positive and hopeful perspective on spiritual journeys. Elden shares his personal journey beyond Mormonism, discussing the shift in understanding personal revelation and the integration of philosophy, quantum physics, and spirituality. The episode concludes by stressing the need for adaptability and diverse perspectives in a changing world.
Links
Roland Griffiths TEDX talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKm_mnbN9JY
Psychology Today Article on Endogenous Mystical Experiences - https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/social-instincts/202301/have-you-had-a-drug-free-psychedelic-experience
The Psychedelic History of Mormonism, Magic, and Drugs by Cody Noconi - https://a.co/d/12MJlPl
Early Mormonism and the Magic World View by D. Michael Quinn - https://a.co/d/ckebGw5
New to the podcast? Make sure you watch Episode 2 or read it in on the Substack for the integrative narrative of Mormon origins:
https://youtu.be/5YBeMrR1seM
https://open.substack.com/pub/mormonsmysticsandmuons/p/mormonism-psychedelics-quantum-physics
Please rate, share, and get in touch at [email protected]!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Mormons, Mystics, and Muons
01:56 The Psychedelic Hypothesis of Mormonism
03:04 Mystical Experiences
06:03 False Dichotomies
08:02 Psychedelic Research and the Good Friday Experiment
10:35 Creating a More Integrative Holistic Narrative
14:30 Different Modalities for Accessing Mystical Experiences
16:19 Transcending False Dichotomies
18:09 The Book of Mormon
20:18 Different States of Consciousness
27:18 Pious Fraud Hypothesis and the Evidences Joseph Believed
36:16 Joseph's Struggle with his Shadow
43:20 Evolution of Religion and Science
49:35 The Eleusinian Mysteries and the Psychedelic Roots of Religion
55:38 The Likelihood of Psychedelics in Early Mormonism
57:18 The Zionitic Brethren and the Ephrata Cloister
59:29 Mormonism and Gnosticism
01:01:16 The Implications of Mormonism's Overlap with Esoteric Traditions
01:04:05 Idealism
01:08:54 The Pursuit of Truth
01:15:04 Moving Beyond Deconstruction to Recontextualization
01:21:15 Leaving the Church
01:28:03 Purpose of the Podcast
01:35:54 Gabe's Journey
01:41:35 Elden's Journey
01:48:35 How Gabe and Elden Met and Plans for the Podcast
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