This is Part 2 of the Andrei Chikatilo case. For this episode, I have Brittany joining me to discuss our thoughts on the case as a whole as well as what we think is at play here. Was it nature? Nurture? A combination? Why?
This episode is one of our more heavily opinionated episodes thus far. But also; if you understand the difference between secretors and non-secretors - regarding DNA and blood type analysis; send us an email. We need help understanding this concept.
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In this episode, we will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Join in on the conversation via Facebook and in the comments on Patreon!
PROMO in this episode: https://shows.acast.com/worlds-dumbest-criminals

Andrei Romanovich Chikatilo - known by most as simply Andrei Chikatilo. Moniker? Rostov Ripper. But wait! There’s more! Mr. Chikatilo has at least 7 other aliases. The Red Ripper. The Butcher of Rostov. The Forest Strip Killer. The Mad Beast. The Mistake of Nature. Killer X. And The Shelter Belt Killer.
Andrei was born on October 16, 1936, In what is now known as Ukraine. He died on February 14, 1994 in Moscow, Russia at the age of 57.
Little bit of an odd coincidence if you ask me. Being born on Sweetest Day and dying on Valentine’s Day…but that may just be my brain and the fact that I have a thing with dates and numbers.
Among his list of careers - Andrei had dipped his toes in many career field pools including being a telephone operator and a supply clerk. Andrei was also a former school teacher at one point. Now…he is known as a Soviet serial killer who murdered at least 50 people between 1978 and 1990.
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For this episode, I stuck to the dates and the facts that we knew about him/his criminal life. In part 2, I will go over more about the nature vs nurture aspects and much more.
Also in part 2, you will hear Brittany’s thoughts and reactions to this case as well.
So, join us tomorrow for Part 2 - where Brittany (from Where the Weird Things Are Podcast and I will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Tune in and join the conversation on Facebook!
PROMO: https://shows.acast.com/worlds-dumbest-criminals

This is Part 2 of the Herman Drenth case. For this episode, I have Brittany joining me to discuss our thoughts on the case as a whole as well as what we think is at play here. Was it nature? Nurture? A combination? Why?
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In this episode, we will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Join in on the conversation via Facebook and in the comments on Patreon!

Additionally, we announce the next categories and what we're bringing to NVN for the remainder of November!

Born on November 17, 1892, Herman Drenth had many names. Much like all of the Bluebeards we’ve covered thus far. Unlike the others, however, Herman had a different method to his madness. He told authorities that it gave him sexual excitement to hear his victims' screams from within the chamber, at night. He went a step farther than the other Bluebeards we’ve covered, in that he specifically built an area in his home, to torture his victims PRIOR to gaining their wealth and murdering them. Additionally, to make him a bit more sadistic, he didn’t care who he had to kill to get the goods. He went as far as killing his love-interests’ children as well. Which, we HAVE seen on at least one other occasion, but those were collateral damage, if you will. With Herman; it appeared as though this was just an extra level of excitement and pleasure.
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For this episode, I stuck to the dates and the facts that we knew about him/his criminal life. In part 2, I will go over more about the nature vs nurture aspects, what we know about his school life, relationships growing up, careers, how he interacted with other humans as well as animals, MO, victim type, more about his “chamber”, suspected victim count, type of serial killer he was, execution style, and much more.

Also in part 2, you will hear Brittany’s thoughts and reactions to this case as well as what’s coming up in the feed for our next category!

So, join us tomorrow for Part 2 - where Brittany (from Where the Weird Things Are Podcast and I will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Tune in and join the conversation on Facebook!

If you are interested in ad-free and extra episodes as well as merch and other swag; think about joining our Patreon at Patreon.com/NVNpodcast for as little as $1 per month!

Check out our website for sources and more - at www.naturevsnarcissism.com

This is Part 2 of the Alfred Cline case. For this episode, I have Brittany joining me to discuss our thoughts on the case as a whole as well as what we think is at play here. Was it nature? Nurture? A combination? Why?
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In this episode, we will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Join in on the conversation via Facebook and in the comments on Patreon!

Alfred Leonard Cline. AKA a “Fiendish Philanderer” and “The Buttermilk Bluebeard”. Born in 1889 and; Cline was a predator who married mostly widowed women of status, convinced them to will their possessions over to him, and then coerced them to drink a glass of poisoned buttermilk. But this wasn’t your average glass of high-protein buttermilk that was easily digested as a natural treatment for gastrointestinal ailments. No siree, it was not. This was a staple of Alfred Cline’s cocktails that he would prepare with a little extra UMPH. He would add powerful sedatives to the buttermilk for his lady of choice...who would then ingest it and die shortly thereafter. And although Cline was linked to the deaths of at least 8 eldery people, there was never enough evidence found to implicate him in foul play. But before really delving into WHO Alfred Cline was and where he came from; I want to first tell you about his criminal activity and who his victims were. Then I will go into a bit more detail with what we know about his upbringing, how he got away with his crimes for so long, and what ended up being his downfall.

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Special thanks to Courtney of the Cult of Domesticity Podcast for her assistance with the research in this episode!
Join us tomorrow for Part 2 - where Brittany (from Where the Weird Things Are Podcast and I will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Tune in and join the conversation on Facebook!
If you are interested in ad-free and extra episodes as well as merch and other swag; think about joining our Patreon at Patreon.com/NVNpodcast for as little as $1 per month!
Check out our website for sources and more - at www.naturevsnarcissism.com

This is Part 2 of the Albert Fish case. For this episode, I have Brittany joining me to discuss our thoughts on the case as a whole as well as what we think is at play here. Was it nature? Nurture? A combination? Why?

In this episode, we will do a deep dive (as deep as we can without throwing up) discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Join in on the conversation via Facebook and in the comments on Patreon!

Hamilton Howard Albert Fish was born on May 19, 1870 in Washington, D.C. to parents Randall and Ellen Fish. By the time Albert was 5 years old, in 1875, his elderly father Randall died of a heart attack at the Sixth Street Station of the Pennsylvania Railroad in Washington, D.C. It was after this that his mother decided to put him in Saint John’s Orphanage. And this. This is when Albert started turning into the person we know him as. His mother was able to obtain a government job in 1880 and removed Albert from the Orphanage. Bringing him back home with her. So, although he was only in the orphanage for about 4 years...these were crucial formative years for his growth and development.

Albert Fish is classified as an American sado-masochistic serial killer and cannibal. He was also known as the Gray Man, the Werewolf of Wysteria, and the Brooklyn Vampire. He bragged that he had “children in every state” which put his number at over 100. Now, whether he was referring to the number of murder victims, molestation victims, canabilization or all of the above, we are not sure. It could have been a lie all around. But what we do know is that he was a suspect in at least 5 murders throughout his lifetime. He ended up confessing to 3 of them, and then he confessed to stabbing 2 others. He ended up being put on trial for the murder of Grace Budd...for whom he was convicted and executed via the electric chair.

This is Part 1 of the Albert Fish case. In this episode, you will hear about the life and crimes of Albert Fish. And why people are so fascinated with this disgusting case, but even more appalled by this evil monster.

Brittany will be back in Part 2 - where we will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more.

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Thank you so much to Justin Rimmel of the Mysterious Circumstances Podcast as well as Brittany and Thurlow of the Where the Weird Things Are Podcast for their assistance with the voiceovers in this episode!

Special thanks to Courtney of the Cult of Domesticity Podcast for her assistance with the research in this episode!

If you are interested in ad-free and extra episodes as well as merch and other swag; think about joining our Patreon at Patreon.com/NVNpodcast for as little as $1 per month!

Check out our website for sources and more - at www.naturevsnarcissism.com

This is Part 2 of the Ward Weaver case. For this episode, I have Slim joining me to discuss our thoughts on the case as a whole as well as what we think is at play here. Was it nature? Nurture? A combination? Why?

In this episode, we will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more. Join in on the conversation via Facebook and in the comments on Patreon!

Born on April 6, 1963, Ward Francis Weaver III is now sitting in a prison cell; serving a life sentence for several egregious crimes against Ashley Pond and Miranda Gaddis in Oregon City, Oregon. In this episode, you will hear about the life and crimes of not only Weaver III, but his family members as well.

This is Part 1 of the Ward Weaver case. Ward Weaver IIIs son, was arrested and charged with the murder of a drug dealer in Canby, Oregon on February 17, 2014. He and three others had allegedly robbed and killed the drug dealer on February 16, 2014 - so, luckily they captured him pretty quickly. He was found guilty and given a life sentence. With his grandfather sitting on California's death row, and his father serving 2 life sentences, this makes him the third generation of Weavers to be convicted as murderers.

This was a requested case by Slim - who you will hear from in Part 2 - where we will do a deep dive discussion about the case, the people involved, our thoughts regarding nature vs nurture, and much more.