ProAging Podcast

Navigating Life's Transitions: Insights on Retirement and Reinvention


Listen Later

Conversation on the Positive Aging Community platform, host Steve Gurney sat down with George Jerjian, an author, speaker, and thought leader specializing in life's transitions. Jerjian, whose latest book is Odyssey of an Elder, shared his personal journey from a life-altering health scare to embracing retirement as a profound opportunity for growth. The discussion delved into themes of identity, purpose, gratitude, and adventure, offering valuable lessons for anyone approaching or navigating later life stages.A Wake-Up Call: From Diagnosis to DiscoveryJerjian's transformative path began in 2007 when he was diagnosed with a bone tumor and given just six months to live. Contrary to expectations, the experience didn't fill him with fear of death itself but rather concern for his teenage daughters. Miraculously, the tumor proved non-cancerous, but the brush with mortality reshaped his priorities. "Time is the most important thing," Jerjian emphasized, prompting him to semi-retire after a successful career.However, after 18 months of leisure, boredom and resentment set in. In 2016, seeking clarity, Jerjian embarked on a 30-day silent retreat inspired by Ignatian spiritual exercises—a rigorous program of introspection, often drawing from Catholic and Buddhist traditions. Isolated from external distractions like news, TV, or books, he conducted a deep "audit" of his life, reflecting on past homes and experiences. This revealed a key insight: "None of the good things could have happened without the preceding bad things." Crises, he realized, are turning points rather than endpoints.This epiphany led to his first book, Spirit of Gratitude: Crises are Opportunities, where he profiled 12 stories illustrating how challenges foster growth. Jerjian challenged the cultural view of retirement as a "problem," arguing it's a fork in the road where one's work-tied identity must evolve. He also highlighted how physical spaces, like homes, can anchor identity, urging listeners to declutter—both materially and emotionally—to make room for new beginnings.The DARE Method: A Framework for ReinventionCentral to Jerjian's philosophy is his DARE method, an acronym standing for Discover, Assimilate, Rewire, and Expand. He described it as a courageous approach to unretiring and crafting a fulfilling next chapter:Discover: Understand retirement's history and essence—it's not just financial planning but life planning. Jerjian referenced ancient thinkers like Cicero, who viewed old age as life's "crown," countering modern society's dismissal of elders as obsolete.Assimilate: Absorb new knowledge about the mind, particularly the subconscious. Willpower alone fails; the subconscious often sabotages goals. Jerjian stressed that we are not our thoughts but observers of them, advocating for releasing unhelpful ones.Rewire: Rewrite limiting stories from childhood, family, or society. By "recording over" old narratives, individuals can foster positive change.Expand: Counterintuitively, retirement should involve growth, not contraction. Gratitude plays a scientific role here, connecting thinking and thanking to open doors for more abundance. Jerjian advocated shifting from consumerism's dissatisfaction to a service-oriented mindset, inspired by Samurai ethos.Jerjian ties this to broader societal benefits, noting that serving others alleviates personal troubles and infuses life with nobility.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

ProAging PodcastBy Positive Aging Community - Steve Gurney

  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9

4.9

7 ratings


More shows like ProAging Podcast

View all
The Moth by The Moth

The Moth

27,163 Listeners

HerMoney with Jean Chatzky by Jean Chatzky Her Money

HerMoney with Jean Chatzky

1,476 Listeners

How I Built This with Guy Raz by Guy Raz | Wondery

How I Built This with Guy Raz

30,193 Listeners

10% Happier with Dan Harris by 10% Happier

10% Happier with Dan Harris

12,728 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

111,848 Listeners

Up First from NPR by NPR

Up First from NPR

56,523 Listeners

The Next Right Thing by with Emily P. Freeman

The Next Right Thing

5,400 Listeners

Wannabe Clutter Free | Declutter, Simplify, Find Freedom by Deanna Yates | Professional Organizer, Decluttering Coach, Wannabe Minimalist

Wannabe Clutter Free | Declutter, Simplify, Find Freedom

387 Listeners

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

10,018 Listeners

Inspiring Calm by Louise Hopkin

Inspiring Calm

12 Listeners

Living Clutter Free Forever - decluttering tips,home organizing, minimalist living by Caroline Thor - Professional Organizer - KonMari® Consultant

Living Clutter Free Forever - decluttering tips,home organizing, minimalist living

54 Listeners

I Couldn’t Throw It Out by Michael Small

I Couldn’t Throw It Out

51 Listeners