In this conversation, Holly and Danielle Zirk discuss motherhood, surfing, and the challenges faced by mothers in the surf industry. Danielle shares her journey of becoming a mother, how she managed without having had a mom herself, and her passion for art and what it represents. We also share advice for those with complicated relationships with their mothers, and emphasize the importance of connecting with oneself and trusting one's instincts.

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Episodes produced and edited by Emma Roggenkamp.