For this episode, we were able to recover a "lost episode" of the NCPEID collaborative from this Spring featuring guest speakers Dr. Justin Haeglele and Dr. Joonkoo Yun where they discuss why to get your PhD in APE and how to identify the PhD for you. Dr. Haegele (@Justin_Haegele) is an associate professor at Old Dominion University and a frequent guest on this podcast. Dr. Yun is a full professor and chair of the Kinesiology Department at East Carolina University. Both are accomplished researchers, as well as they have OSEP grant (Office of Special Education Programs) funding for PhDs. This training will occur through coursework, practicum, a consortium-wide enrichment program, community based service-learning programs, and research engagement.