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Darren and I break down “Wherever You Go, There You Are,” the penultimate episode of Apple TV+’s Lucky, and talk about why it felt like some of the show’s strongest work—especially Timothy Olyphant’s extended backstory scene and the episode’s room-bound, conversation-heavy structure that sets up the finale. We focus on the parent-child themes mirrored between Lucky and her father John and Priscilla and her deceased son, including Lucky’s reveal that she turned John in, her desire for a stable life, and John’s emotional apology after confronting what he’s done. We discuss Rand’s hard-edged stance toward John, the increased spotlight and apparent death of Rand’s partner, and the mystery of the out-of-focus shooters. We also compare notes on Reacher season 4’s early episodes, recommend the Australian horror film Leviticus, and preview upcoming coverage of Lanterns and Reacher.

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00:00 Welcome and Setup

00:50 Patreon Chats Revival

02:10 Lucky Episode Praise

05:44 Reacher Season Talk

12:07 Reacher Promo Politics

14:52 Indie Horror Recommendation

19:20 Lucky Themes and Parallels

20:46 John’s Origin Story

23:24 Betrayal and Apology

30:34 Rand Confrontation Fallout

34:25 Money Obsession Breakdown

36:37 Priscilla Deal Fallout

37:26 Whitaker Ego Spiral

39:41 Out Of Focus Hitmen

41:22 Whitaker And Priscilla Toxicity

44:35 Miniseries Or Season Two

48:36 Finale Predictions

54:32 Who Sent The Thugs

57:38 Best Fugitive Thrillers

59:32 Relay Movie Recommendation

01:03:32 Mel Gibson Tangent

01:06:00 Next Week Shows Wrap

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We break down Furious Episode 5 (“Pick a Sticker”), our favorite episode so far, and talk about why the show’s plotting and thematic payoffs feel so tight. We also share Patreon updates, including new free community chat categories (including Furious) and a heads-up that a paywall is coming for episodes while chats will remain free, then we recommend A24’s The Invite (rent now, later on HBO) and HBO’s The Drama (Zendaya and Robert Pattinson), plus note the older horror film The Invitation. On Furious, we discuss Catherine and Alden’s unsettling cold open and whether their relationship is transactional and sincere, Alice’s strategy around Marshall and Danny, clues involving Nora’s past and the bracelet/baby-box system, and parallels among Alice, Catherine, and Isabelle (including the theory that Isabelle’s “sister” is actually her daughter). We cover Hal’s revelations and death, Marshall’s apparent sidelining after Alice’s setup, and the cliffhanger where Alice and Catherine end up at the same shelter, speculating on what Alice does next with three episodes left.

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00:00 Show Intro

00:31 Patreon Chats Update

03:13 Movie Picks And Recommendations

11:10 Back To Furious Episode Five

11:53 Why This Episode Works

14:19 Cold Open Breakdown

19:24 Alice And Danny Tension

22:26 Nora Clues And Bracelet

27:06 Ed And Office Politics

28:27 Bathroom Talk And Manipulation

30:48 Catherine And Hal Tease

31:03 Trauma Parallels

32:47 Bystanders and Excuses

34:23 Protecting Isabelle Theory

38:41 Danny Tips Marshall

40:43 Memory Bag Photos

41:55 Seduction Setup

43:30 Police Sting Fallout

48:21 Sonogram and Baby Box

51:53 Nora and Danny Scheme

53:04 Hal Escape Horror

59:17 Shelter Showdown

01:02:43 Predictions and Wrap

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In this midweek episode of Need Some Introduction, Darren and I focus on the huge box-office phenomenon of Spider-Man: Brand New Day, our experiences seeing it in packed theaters, and how much we enjoyed (and debated) its direction, action, and MCU setup, including impressions of the Punisher and improved 3D/ScreenX presentation. We rank the Spider-Man films, with both of us landing on Into the Spider-Verse as our overall favorite, while disagreeing on several MCU entries and where Brand New Day belongs. In the spoiler section, we discuss the major reveal that the body-jumping antagonist is Jean Grey, what that implies for Marvel’s future and X-Men integration, and standout emotional beats near the ending. We also recap Lucky episode 5—its grief themes, plot turns involving Rand, Priscilla, and early prison releases—while noting recurring plausibility issues, and briefly touch on Furious, Ted Lasso’s return, and a few recent movies.

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00:00 Show Setup and Spoilers

02:54 Box Office Mania

05:39 First Reactions and Punisher

08:14 3D and ScreenX Surprise

12:42 Why It Works

18:56 Marvel Future Setup

21:57 Spider Origin Vibes

29:32 Matrix Style Action

33:39 Lucky Episode Five

35:32 Lucky Escape Recap

36:35 Hospital Plot Hole

38:30 Scrubs Disguise Debate

39:42 Turning Herself In

40:33 Private Jet Reality Check

41:42 Hotel Bar Confession

43:34 Carrie Death Whiplash

44:15 Dad Released From Prison

45:14 Are We Bad People

46:50 Rand Leverage Theory

48:59 Furious Show Detour

51:08 Ted Lasso Returns

56:00 Spider Man Ranking Begins

01:05:05 Raimi Origin Love

01:05:31 Across Spider Verse Debate

01:07:47 Homecoming High School Vibes

01:09:26 Raimi Spider Man 2 Praise

01:10:03 Brand New Day at Three

01:12:00 Into Spider Verse Number One

01:15:32 Brand New Day Spoilers

01:19:09 X Men Multiverse Headache

01:23:04 Handshake Ending and Ships

01:24:20 Venom Morbius Meme Talk

01:26:22 Whats Next DC and More

01:29:40 Summer Movies Wrap Up

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Victor and Sona open by debating the latest Spider-Man movie’s length, 3D presentation, and emotional payoff, with Victor teasing a separate spoiler-filled ranking podcast. They then dive into Disney+/Hulu thriller Furious, focusing on episode 4, “Flash Flood,” and revisiting episodes 2–3’s titles and themes (Medusa/Gorgon mythology, hair symbolism, and the Emily Dickinson publication dilemma). They discuss Nora’s investigative strategy of withholding evidence, her apparent connection to a 2012 group-home overdose case, and tensions with FBI colleague Choi versus Alice’s instincts. The episode recap highlights Kat (now using “Marta”) infiltrating a lawyer’s family via Blanchard to abduct Hal, Alice’s self-harm kink and complications with Danny and Marshall, the Albany group-home revelations tying Kat to Isabelle and nursing access, and the ominous ending with Alden’s proposal and Hal awakening near a house as the case closes in.

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00:00 Podcast Welcome

00:27 Spider Verse Reactions

05:12 3D And Opening Swing

07:04 Back To Furious

08:53 Medusa And Hair Metaphor

11:43 Emily Dickinson Dilemma

16:24 Photo Clue And Jay Easton

21:36 Danny And Kat Updates

27:51 Blanchard Infiltration

39:40 Alice Kink And Nora Tactics

45:10 Nora Buried Case

45:39 Ed Meeting Tension

46:35 Nora Playing Chess

49:50 Easton Daughter Arrives

52:22 Hal Revealed Dad

53:11 Drugging Hal Logistics

58:43 Albany Group Home Clues

01:01:26 Memory Box Mementos

01:03:09 Google Doc Showdown

01:06:51 Alden Proposal Twist

01:09:48 Hal Wakes Up Mystery

01:13:26 Avenging Angel Tangent

01:19:16 Ride or Die Rec

01:21:13 Next Episode Tease

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We break down the season finale of Apple TV’s Cape Fear, “The Executioners,” and question why it’s labeled a season—not series—finale. We also share quick notes on our new FX coverage of Furious (Sona is obsessed after all three episodes) and Apple TV’s Lucky, which has jumped into the streaming top 10 with big week-over-week growth. On the finale, we agree it’s one of the better-directed episodes with strong performances and an entertaining mock-trial set piece, but we’re frustrated by illogical scripting, bizarre character decisions, leaving Cape Fear for Savannah, underused themes (including surveillance and earlier religious imagery), and unsatisfying loose ends seemingly meant to set up season two. We end by previewing upcoming Furious coverage and discussing Spider-Man ticket sellouts and strong early reception.

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00:00 Finale Setup and Guests

00:43 Furious Coverage Update

06:48 Why Cape Fear Needs No Season Two

08:34 Off the Rails Finale Choices

09:25 Camp Versus Dark Comedy

15:10 Boat Massacre Breakdown

21:08 Restaurant Opening Absurdity

24:02 USB Reveal and Crowd Reaction

26:48 Tech and Surveillance Themes

30:00 Storm Night and Bad Decisions

33:25 Finale Callbacks and Possum

34:51 Candles Roof Stomps Chaos

36:15 Cops Arrive Roof Break In

38:24 Birth Certificate Reveal

42:06 Mock Trial Mayhem

44:27 Truth Deal Explained

50:05 Crystal Twist Missed

56:13 Pool Fight Cage Ending

57:16 Final Shot Cape Fear

01:02:20 Season Verdict Loose Ends

01:05:04 Next Shows Spider Man

01:10:48 Signing Off

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Darren and I break down Lucky episodes 3 and mostly 4, reacting to the reunion-and-aftermath between Lucky and Cary, the episode’s action set pieces, flashbacks about the organization, and the fallout involving Annette Bening’s Priscilla, the FBI pursuer, and the missing 12-word crypto phrase. We also hit Comic-Con news including David Jonsson being cast as T’Challa’s son in Black Panther 3 (Ryan Coogler), and Coogler’s 65mm-shot, two-hour X-Files pilot starring Himesh Patel and Danielle Deadwyler. We discuss the announcement of Ryan Gosling as Ghost Rider, massive Spider-Man ticket presales (with Darren already booked), and plan to rank Spider-Man films next week. We mourn director Chuck Russell, discuss Darren’s second viewing and ranking of Nolan’s The Odyssey, and touch on recent watches like Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed, The Dink, Masters of the Universe, and Caught Stealing.

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00:00 Welcome and Setup

00:47 Movie Catch Up Plans

02:17 Comic Con News Roundup

03:18 Black Panther Casting Buzz

05:47 Coogler X Files Reboot

09:00 Ryan Gosling as Ghost Rider

11:49 Spider Man Hype and Tickets

16:45 RIP Chuck Russell

19:41 Odyssey Second Viewing

21:45 Practical Effects vs CGI

26:11 Ranking Nolan Films

30:40 What We've Been Watching

30:44 Apple TV Picks and The Dink

33:34 Masters of the Universe Review

34:29 Humor That Misses

35:36 Jared Leto Surprise

36:51 Lucky Series Praise

40:14 Episode Four Problems

42:51 Flashbacks and Themes

50:48 Bitcoin Phrase Mystery

53:44 Logic Gaps and Predictions

01:00:31 Caught Stealing Review

01:05:07 Next Week Spider Man

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Victor introduces the podcast’s new weekly coverage and, with Sona, breaks down episode 1 of Hulu’s Furious (Liz Meriwether), starring Emmy Rossum as FBI agent Alice Black and Lola Petticrew as Catherine (“Cat”). They discuss the show’s dark tone punctuated by comedy, New York setting, a cat-and-mouse structure, and the “Gorgon/Medusa” framework tied to violence and trauma, plus Alice’s workplace dynamics and history of abuse. Victor then gives his own spoilers-filled reactions to episodes 2 and 3, emphasizing title symbolism (Emily Dickinson’s “My Life Had Stood a Loaded Gun,” “Memory Distortion”), hair and agency parallels to Medusa, Catherine’s escalating killings and methods, an emerging Epstein-like network implicating powerful men, and Alice’s strained ties to her abusive ex and her platonic bond with Danny as the investigation becomes a joint FBI/NYPD task force.

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00:00 Podcast Intro and Schedule

02:35 Show Lineup and Patreon

03:13 Meet Furious and Liz Meriwether

05:16 Tone Shift Dark Comedy

08:38 Episode One Setup Spoilers

10:23 Cast Spotlight Petticrew

12:43 Emmy Rossum and Backstory

16:47 Mask Opening and Candy Corn

20:35 Fentanyl Digression

24:13 Breakup Murder Psychology

26:17 Workplace Misogyny and Boys Club

31:43 Trafficking Cabal Theory

33:48 Bystanders And Complicity

36:45 Case Clues And Motifs

37:50 Neighbor Camera Comedy

39:27 Shelter Identity Play

43:17 Sisters And Trauma Kink

46:41 Snacks And Dark Levity

48:51 Targets And Conspiracy Web

54:59 Tattoo Evidence Connects

58:23 Medusa Theme Returns

59:50 Trauma and Medusa

01:02:52 Cape Fear Wrap Plans

01:04:06 Odyssey and Spider Man

01:07:01 Myth Titles Decoded

01:11:29 Episode Two Breakdown

01:18:43 Emily Dickinson Gun

01:22:07 Alice and Marshall

01:28:09 Episode Three Threads

01:35:02 Conspiracy Breadcrumbs

01:41:33 Final Thoughts Next Week

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In this episode of Need Some Introduction, Darren and I briefly touch on Lucky but spend most of the conversation discussing Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey, including its remarkable box-office performance and how it may fare against the upcoming Spider-Man: Brand New Day. I share upcoming coverage plans for Furious, Lucky, and the finale of Cape Fear, plus a Hulu recommendation (Nirvanna the Band: The Show, the movie) and notes on the Patreon and my article about The Odyssey. Darren and I compare IMAX and other formats, praise the film’s spectacle, practical effects, horror-leaning sequences, sound/music, and Jennifer Lame’s editing, while noting issues like limited agency for female characters and mixed feelings about Tom Holland’s performance. We highlight standout scenes (Cyclops, Circe, Hades, Troy) and debate what Nolan could do next.

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00:00 Podcast Intro And Pivot

00:41 Odyssey Box Office Buzz

03:07 This Week On The Feed

06:14 Patreon And Show Notes

07:14 Catching Up On Lucky

09:09 First IMAX Odyssey

09:58 Format Wars 70mm

13:43 Nolan Brand Box Office

17:22 First Impressions Feast

23:44 Women And Agency

30:30 Horror Set Pieces

33:07 Hades Sequence Praise

34:24 Rowing and Sea Gods

36:23 Scylla Charybdis Reference

37:28 Nolan Editing Time Jumps

41:35 Script Structure and Framing

43:53 Telemachus and Accent Debate

46:04 Pattinson Scene Stealer

47:36 Sirens Speech Highlight

49:07 Troy Regret and Sea Raiders

52:50 Dark Age Ending Themes

54:06 Trojan Horse Sequence

55:59 Did Odysseus Learn Anything

59:22 Adaptation Unreliable Narrator

01:01:47 What Should Nolan Do Next

01:06:23 Wrap Up and Next Episode

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In this episode of Need Some Introduction, we’re one week away from the Cape Fear finale and we break down Episode 9, “The Scar,” while sharing listener feedback and updates on what we’re covering next. We talk about severe weather near us, the World Cup result, and note the Patreon is still free; Victor will publish a delayed Nolan “The Odyssey” IMAX conversation with Darren. We announce our next main series, Furious (a Monday premiere with strong early reviews, described as a loose adaptation of the 1987 film Black Widow), and we also discuss continuing Apple TV+’s Lucky (Anya Taylor-Joy, Las Vegas, heist aftermath, Timothy Olyphant and Annette Bening). Sona recommends Prime Video’s Ride or Die (Hannah Waddingham, Octavia Spencer, Bill Nighy) as a fun, twisty European assassin-on-the-run binge. For Cape Fear, we recap major reveals around Crystal/Delilah, Luke, the “USB” evidence, and escalating family chaos, debate lingering parentage/incest questions, and speculate on how Tom, Zach, Noah, and Max converge for the finale.

00:00 Welcome and Check In

00:28 Weather and World Cup

02:17 Patreon and Next Shows

05:06 Lucky on Apple TV

08:27 Ride or Die Recommendation

13:44 Listener Feedback Roundup

19:11 Episode 9 The Scar Setup

21:40 Katies Visit and Crystal

24:13 Max Hospital and Anna Boat

27:12 Zach Call and Prison Drama

31:38 Nivea Confession Scene

33:03 Toe Metaphor Orders

34:28 Anna Meets Crystal

37:14 Crystal Delilah Reveal

39:09 Luke Scar Theory

46:32 Suicide House USB

49:31 Max Threatens Tom

52:48 Finale Setup Boat Chaos

58:12 Wrap Up Next Shows

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A catch-all conversation covering episodes 7 and 8, with a title that translates to "God's timing is perfect." Sona joins to talk about the show finally narrowing its focus to Anna vs. Max, the best-written scene the series has produced, the funniest one it may not have meant to produce, and a lot of unanswered logistical questions about a cooler.

[00:00] Cold open and a missing episode Recapping ep. 8 — and realizing ep. 7 got covered solo, so both are on the table.

[00:55] World Cup talk Sona on the final, a divided country enjoying one shared thing, and the drama around the US team. Her son's Spain fandom vs. Messi's last run.

[03:20] 42nd Street shutdowns What it's actually like living in a World Cup host neighborhood, including the difficulty of obtaining a pizza.

[04:20] Episode 7 grievance: they killed Ray Frustration at underusing a great actor — sidelined since the ep. 1 barbecue, finally given a scene as one of the show's only rational characters, then killed. The theory: the show has no room for rational people.

[06:00] Coming around on the show Sona took a break, came back, and made peace with the fact that the show doesn't know what it is. Also: unexpected fondness for Natalie.

[07:15] Where episode 8 leaves us The table gets cleared. Amy Adams finally off the leash, Anna and Max head-to-head, and the "original sin" as the thing that has to be settled. Also the complaint: the mysteries have been saved for the very end.

[08:45] Best scene of the series Anna and Natalie, drinking and laying their cards on the table. Two strong performances, sharp writing — the version of the show they'd like to be watching.

[09:35] Funniest scene of the series Natalie gets the gun. "Shoot me here — no, right here." Then Anna comes running out and gets the line reading of the season: "I missed."

[10:40] McGruff the Crime Dog The grandfather is asked to break in and plant drugs. His betrayal, whether he earned any sympathy, and the fact that the show never bothers to explain their history.

[11:20] Surveillance as the show's spine Crystal's photos, the iCloud reveal, the kiss coming back around — and why the grandfather being caught on camera would have made more sense.

[12:40] Ray's head in the pool When exactly did Max have time to dismember a person? Trunk vs. cooler debate, buoyancy problems, and the staging choice of "your parents dismembered him and put him in the pool."

[14:40] Nobody is watching these children Natalie repeatedly surprising her parents by being home, while they think she's out of state.

[15:15] Doing the math on the kids House bought 16 years ago, seven (or eight) months pregnant, learner's permits in Georgia at 15 — so how old is Zach supposed to be, and how old was he during the sexting incident? A 23-year-old actor is not selling 13.

[18:20] Natalie visits Nevaeh in juvie Nevaeh has never looked better. No more crawling in walls, no more bad bar lighting — prison is thriving for her. Plus the show's best intentionally funny line: "Did I get you pregnant?"

[20:00] What's Max's assignment for Nevaeh? Speculation from the next-episode description, and whether Max's revenge requires one of Anna's kids to die.

[20:40] "I'll take the fall" Anna offers herself up; Max isn't interested. He wants her to suffer the way he suffered. One of the genuinely good scenes.

[21:20] The physics of a staged shooting Max picks a through-and-through spot, a panicked teenager hits it exactly, and he's back to decorating the restaurant. What Natalie should have done instead.

[22:30] Legal aside: charging a minor Juvenile detention until 18, transfer after, and being charged as an adult — with the usual "this isn't my area" disclaimer.

[22:50] Zach in therapy The involuntary hold, the hallucinated AI version of Angel from the ep. 2 video, and "which one is that?" A rough stretch of performance with rough material.

[24:15] Why the drugging explanation makes the parents look worse If Nevaeh was dosing and conditioning him for months, how did nobody notice? He ate his own toe and they didn't take a day off.

[25:45] Someone was living in the walls The possum explanation, the draft from the renovation, and the show's recurring theme of parental disengagement.

[26:20] Tom swaps the gun Noticing the discharge, the spare with the bad firing pin, and why the casting ages undercut the material. Comparison to Juliette Lewis in the 1991 film — the retainer did a lot of work.

[28:20] Role reversal complete Tom in a cell doing pushups, echoing Max's prison scenes. Everyone ends up jailed, which is exactly what Max wanted.

[28:45] The photograph and the confrontation Tom turns on Anna. Both sides are legible — but her non-answer to "did you sleep with him" is not helping.

[29:45] Why Anna can't answer The shame of not knowing what happened: drugged, blacked out, or something else. A pattern of not confessing that runs through the whole family and keeps making everything worse.

[31:20] Campy vs. subtle The thriller this could have been — a slow bureaucratic railroading where the wronged party looks guilty — versus how overt the show plays everything.

[32:30] Occam's razor Ex-con moves in across the street, his daughter lives inside your walls drugging your son, body parts turn up in your pool — and Max isn't a suspect? Credit to Anna's boss for admitting she was wrong.

[33:40] Where were the news vans two days ago? A media encampment between the two houses that somehow missed a 200-pound cooler crossing the street, and missed Natalie walking over with a gun.

[34:40] The shape of a season Two episodes left and the show still hasn't narrowed. Max playing to the cameras, directing the cameraman, then going back to picking out paintings for the restaurant.

[36:30] Ep. 7 oddities The boy with the dogs — "can I not kiss you?" — plus Max's parents, the mother calling Natalie "Anna," and the backhand. New drama introduced with two episodes to go.

[38:00] Crystal's endgame No Juliette Lewis in either episode, but the houseboat and the photographs are hers. Predictions: ep. 9 goes to Crystal and Anna, the finale brings the storm and the confrontation.

[39:20] Why is this ten episodes? Fifteen side roads to get to a place six or eight episodes could have reached.

[40:20] The twist that would have worked A dysfunctional family blames a man for their own collapse and turns him into the monster they accused him of being — versus the twists still available now that Max has murdered someone on screen.

[41:20] The bodies nobody has found Nevaeh's mother, the mother and son, and the fact that Ray is the first killing actually shown.

[41:40] "You're my son now" Max flipping instantly to "he's just a boy" for the cameras.

[42:40] Where is the police cruiser? Two households at each other's throats daily, guns and bodies in play, and no one is stationed outside. Also: someone should have stopped Natalie from getting in that car.

[43:40] Zach's descent Stabbing Tom with the shears, the possible incepted fishing-trip memory, and Anna's poor phone snooping.

[46:00] Dropped threads: the cloned phone Texting Angel X — while she is physically inside the walls and could just wait until nightfall. The least convenient possible communication method.

[47:30] The color reversal shot The cinematography flourish returns for Ray's head surfacing. They were saving it.

[48:20] The logistics of dismemberment Max is a chef; this looks like axe work. A waterside theory, the lack of blood, and the acceptance that these missing scenes will never be filled in.

[49:20] The masked figure and the cameras Someone knew about the second camera and cut both. Height disparity between Patrick Wilson and Javier Bardem as evidence the cops decline to consider.

[50:20] Tom's arsenal Is this many guns normal? Military background, the South, and a career's worth of people who might hold a grudge — or is it just reverse-engineered from the plot?

[52:30] What they want from the final two Answers about Anna and Max, the real story behind the deal that sent him to prison, Anna and her father — plus a storm and some over-the-top chase cinematography.

[54:40] Centering Amy Adams The case for making Anna the driver of the ending, and the original sin coming home to roost.

[55:50] "Are you sorry you're watching this?" Feeling a little trapped, whether the audience loves it or hate-watches it, and the fact that there's nothing else on right now.

[56:40] Wrap-up Two episodes to go, and the next show gets announced next week.

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