Nersey - Technically a Music Podcast

this episode is part of the nersey guide to ethical hating, a series featuring some of your favorite people on the internet talking about the concept of “the hater” through the lens of their personal expertise. only paying subscribers will have access to the entire series, so sign up on patreon (https://patreon.com/nersey) or substack (https://nersey.substack.com)

ruby justice thelot is the smartest person we know. buy his book a cyberarcheology of checkpoints, which is about using the internet to find community in ways that capital does not intend (specifically in the comments section of a youtube video containing the soundtrack of donkey kong country 2), or else.

he hopped on the pod to talk about the positives and negatives of fan culture, the quasi-lacanian nature of the stan-to-idol relationship, which fanbases are the most powerful in their haterdom, the political power of the furry community, how a new roman emperor’s first move was to eliminate all his haters, and the time that ruby was flown out by ysl to just hang out at their fashion show in paris. 

ruby’s so ridiculously good at being on podcasts that at one point trey announced that nersey now belongs to him. 

nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. 

follow nersey on twitter and instagram, plz give us money on patreon and substack.

this episode is part of the nersey guide to ethical hating, a series featuring some of your favorite people on the internet talking about the concept of “the hater” through the lens of their personal expertise. find each episode here once it’s up. only paying subscribers will have access to the entire series, so sign up below:

nersey patreon - https://patreon.com/nersey

nersey substack - https://nersey.substack.com/subscribe

for this edition of The Nersey Guide to Ethical Hating, we got our homie, the rapper/racontour/rapscallion fatboi sharif, on the pod to talk about rap beefs. though sharif has a lot of opinions on both rapping and beefing, he’s not really into taking shots on wax: “i’d rather just come to your show and beat you up,” he says.

in case you’ve been living under a rock, fatboi sharif is one of the brightest, realest, and most avant-garde stars in underground hip-hop, and he just so happens to work closely with our producer steel tipped dove — check their joint album decay out asap if you’re unfamiliar.

other topics we touch on in this episode include the cartoonish villainy of diddy, stanley kubrick movies and their corresponding conspiracy theories, and drew being insanely bad at dancing. also, slava and sharif have a freestyle battle at the end.

nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. 

you can follow nersey on twitter and instagram, and you can support our work on patreon and substack.

Nersey is a podcast by Trey Smith, Drew Millard, and Slava P. We are produced by Steel Tipped Dove and our music is by Craig S. Jenkins. Our show is technically about music. We publish new episodes most weeks, plus blog posts sometimes. Free subscribers get to listen to the first half of each episode; paid subscribers get to listen to the whole thing, which includes our legendary “Joe Budden Podcast-Style Sleepers Section.”

Patreon: patreon.com/Nersey

Substack: https://nersey.substack.com/subscribe

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drew had covid when we recorded so slava, trey, and steel tipped dove boldly forged ahead to talk about the issues of the day. namely: cryptocoins being up, the world being in mourning because of the death of the dragon ball z guy, and the department of defense having a stage at sxsw. trey and slava ended up blocking each other on twitter as a bit, joe offered a grand theory of how to dj when planet earth is playing at a bar, and then drew came on at some point towards the end to talk about how he definitely didn’t get covid at the big shoegaze festival in philly. this one is extremely a subscriber only episode and should quite frankly be listened to by no one. 

also if drew had been there for the discussion about sxsw he would have told the following story:

at sxsw in like 2014, this guy who was throwing a big party at a convention center with a bowling alley was like “hey you should meet this guy i manage, he’s an r&b singer and a rapper and i think he’s gonna be big one day maybe.” he then grabbed the guy, introduced us, and then immediately walked away to do other stuff. the r&b singer/rapper and i started chatting and ended up getting along and hanging out for like four hours backstage at this big party thing. at one point some video interview person came up to the r&b singer/rapper and was like “hey can i interview you” and the r&b singer/rapper was like “yeah for sure but also you gotta meet my new protege, troy abs. he’s bringing real new york rap back through physical fitness” and pulls me into the camera frame with him. so he and i spend ten minutes doing this bit about how i’m a rapper and all my songs are about proper pull-up technique or whatever and the camera person just keeps rolling, i can only assume they knew we were joking but i’ve never seen the footage and it probably never made it to youtube so really i have no idea. later, i told slava about this experience and he was like “dude you shouldn’t f**k with that guy, he’s got a kinda bad reputation around toronto” so i stopped being his friend.

this was fortuitous, it turns out, because the r&b singer/rapper in question was tory lanez. the end.

anyways, nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. 

follow nersey on twitter and instagram, plz give us money on patreon and substack.

this episode is part of the nersey guide to ethical hating, a series featuring some of your favorite people on the internet talking about the concept of “the hater” through the lens of their personal expertise. only paying subscribers will have access to the entire series, so sign up on patreon or substack. 

https://patreon.com/Nersey

https://nersey.substack.com/subscribe

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what does it mean to be a hater, but in an ethical way? what if there were an, uhhhhh, ethics,,,, of being a hater? since we decided to make a whole ass series themed around (once again) being an ethical hater, we decided we needed to define our terms here. and who better to help us do that than brandy jensen, the absolute legend and h8r extraordinaire who is now technically a professional advice-giver. there was some yelling and also some deep thinking and occasionally both at the same time. together, we tackle thrilling questions such as:

* what counts as “being a hater,” and when is it warranted?

* is there a difference between being a hater and talking s**t?

* is haterdom ever a result of how we feel about ourselves? who was the greatest literary hater?

* who do we, personally, hate? and relatedly, will any of us suffer either professional or personal consequences as a result of things we said on this podcast? 

for the answers to all these questions and more, put the sounds of this podcast into your ears.

nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. 

subscribe to brandy on substack: https://brandyjensen.substack.com/

support nersey on patreon and substack:

https://patreon.com/nersey

https://nersey.substack.com

this episode is part of the nersey guide to ethical hating, a series featuring some of your favorite people on the internet talking about the concept of “the hater” through the lens of their personal expertise. find every episode here. only paying subscribers will have access to the entire series, so sign up on patreon or substack:

https://nersey.substack.com/subscribe

https://www.patreon.com/Nersey

we spent a bunch of time putting together this super secret series and you cannot listen to most of it unless you give us money. it’s about how to be a hater. an ethical one. this is the first episode and it features the pulitzer prize nominee critic craig s. jenkins, who popped in from his post as new york magazine’s in-house arbiter of objective musical quality to weigh in on what’s worth hating on and not, how to use magic to manipulate people’s minds, when to stop going so hard on twitter, and whether ramriddlz or sia has made the worst song of all time. 

if you’ve ever wondered if the writer craig s. jenkins was the same craig s. jenkins who makes our music, the answer is yes. craig is a budding synth wiz and we talk about that in the episode too. lotta good nersey lore in this episode in general tbh. 

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nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. we put out episodes most weeks, and free subscribers get to listen to the first half of each episode. paid subscribers get to listen to full episodes, including our legendary “joe budden podcast-style ‘sleepers’ segment.”

follow nersey on twitter and instagram, plz give us money on patreon and substack.

We decided to make this episode of Nersey entirely free, just like an issue of VICE Magazine sitting in American Apparel circa 2006. 

Nersey is a podcast by Trey Smith, Drew Millard, and Slava P. We are produced by Steel Tipped Dove and our music is by Craig S. Jenkins. Our show is technically about music. We publish new episodes most weeks, plus blog posts sometimes. Free subscribers get to listen to the first half of each episode; paid subscribers get to listen to the whole thing, which includes our legendary “Joe Budden Podcast-Style Sleepers Section.” We’re also on Patreon. 

Batten down the hatches and put on your raincoats, sailors, because we’re headed straight into some damn unfavorable economic headwinds. By that, we mean that once again, VICE has laid a bunch of people off and is generally in trouble. As all you Music Man heads know, trouble starts with a T, which rhymes with P, and that stands for “podcast.” Our podcast. Which, today, is about VICE. 

We’re joined by mega-genius Zachary Lipez of Creem Magazine to help us figure out what VICE was, because he was in the NYC scene back in the 2000s when the mag was really popping off; meanwhile, we were all dumb teens who would grow up to work at VICE in the 2010s. Other topics discussed include Zach’s excellent piece on the downfall of music journalism, how bands used to take a bunch of money from cigarette brands, performatively not taking care of yourself, the lost art of talking s**t in incredibly low-stakes contexts, and also electroclash. 

Special thanks to Yuri for letting Drew record at his house and also informing us that VICE created a “virtual Lower East Side” in like 2007.

lotta important topics touched on in this episode. like the super bowl, which at this point isn’t very topical but whatever. and kanye’s new album with ty dolla $sign, which came out like a week and a half ago and that you probably didn’t listen to and/or forgot about and/or didn’t realize happened. look man you don’t listen to nersey because we’re some hipster dipshit alternative to npr, you listen to nersey because of other reasons. reasons you cannot understand. reasons nersey doesn’t even understand. nersey is its own thing.

we put the end of the episode behind a paywall as part of our ongoing attempts to “monetize” nersey. only the paying subscribers will get to know what we talked about, if you want to solve the mystery, click below. substack already has your credit card number probably it’ll take like two seconds just do it. also you’re gonna wanna subscribe trust us 

nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. 

follow nersey on twitter and instagram, plz give us money on patreon and substack.

hey. have you ever wondered what it would be like to listen to an episode of a podcast where the hosts talk about other episodes of their podcast that they’ve put behind a paywall. because that’s what this episode is. a long ass advertisement for the upcoming NERSEY GUIDE TO ETHICAL HATING, which is a series we recorded over the past few months featuring some of our favorite people talking to us about how to be a hater without being an a*****e about it. by the time you’re done listening to it you’re gonna be ready as hell to go to patreon dot com backslash nersey and/or nersey dot substack dot com and become a “premium subscriber.” 

once you do that, you’ll be able to listen to the second half of the episode. honestly can’t remember what we talked about but it seemed good at the time. 

oh and there’s also a segment in there where we talk about how drew and slava are washed but trey and steel tipped dove are not. that’s some classic aging millennial hipster podcast content right there.

anyways, nersey guide to ethical hating is coming to a patreon and/or substack near you soon. we might give you the episodes with craig s. jenkins and brandy jensen for free to “stir up mad hype” tho. 

nersey is hosted by trey smith, drew millard, and slava p. we are produced by steel tipped dove and our music is by craig s. jenkins. 

follow nersey on twitter and instagram, plz give us money on patreon and substack.

slava had the genius idea to make us recap the grammys despite the fact that none of us actually watched them. this is a music podcast. about music. then we talk about the apple vr goggles which will definitely make you crash your car, which somehow turns into us pitching each other shark tank style inventions. if you paid for the bonus episode you’ll also get to listen to us talking about how toby keith is in hell, as well as listen to our PAID SUBSCRIBER EXCLUSIVE segment, which we call “the joe budden podcast style sleepers segment.”

plz subscribe and also plz pay we’re not giving y’all full episodes anymore

nersey is hosted by trey smith, slava p, and drew millard. our producer is steel tipped dove and our music is by pulitzer prize nominee craig s. jenkins. 

also follow us on twitter and/or instagram plz, AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SIGN UP FOR THE PATREON.

nersey is back and better than ever, babeyyyyy! we’re joined by the one and only jeff weiss to talk about conde nast’s bizarre and overarchingly tragic decision to kneecap pitchfork and fold it into GQ, thereby ending music journalism as we have known it all our lives. our conversation is funny in a “god this sucks” kind of way. then we offer up our predictions for the year 2024 and jeff judges them because he is a Professional Critic. also, “josh” is the new word for “mid.”

btw, you will notice from the “call to action” above that we have “turned on the paywall” over here. we were initially planning on chopping this episode with jeff in half and releasing the second half for paying subscribers only, but it turned out that the recent layoffs at pitchfork were only the beginning of a truly unconscionable week to have a job in media, which we know lots of our listeners do. so, rather than asking people to pay to hear our cathartically angry conversation with jeff in full, we’re making this episode free. in the future, we’re going to be releasing subscriber-only pods and other “exclusive” bits of “content” such as playlists, sick blogs, and trey’s home address. 

why are we doing this? well, two of us still don’t have jobs (slava is a millwright tho), and our unfathomably talented producer steel tipped dove deserves to be paid way more for his contributions. plus drew would at least like to make the money back on the two used books he read to teach himself graphic design.

HAVING SAID THAT: if you’re a recently laid-off media worker or even just a media worker who’s been negatively affected by this doodoo-ass economic times and would like the FULL NERSEY EXPERIENCE without spending the money that you suddenly have way less of, reach out to drew on twitter (his DMs are open) and he’ll hook you up with a free subscription.