Welcome to the latest edition of Never Mind The Bar Charts, in which Stephen finally gets me to talk about Brexit. But only after discussing the Newport West by-election, the reliability of the national opinion polls, the likely Liberal Democrat leadership contest and whether the party might be about to lose Norman Lamb from its ranks.

Listen and enjoy...

• Norman Lamb's comments about his future can be read about here.

Listen and enjoy as birthday boy Stephen and I discuss Vince Cable's record as party leader now he's announced his departure date (nearly), who might succeed him, what happened at Liberal Democrat conference in York, the brilliance of Geoff Payne, the party reforms now underway and why Stephen Tall pays up money to the New Statesman. He also mentioned the Steel vs Pardoe way of looking at Lib Dem leadership contests, explained by Jonathan Calder here.

Listen and enjoy as Stephen and I discuss the future of The Independent Group, its possible impact on British politics, parallels with the SDP and what it means for the Liberal Democrats.

With a shoutout to the Polling Matters podcast episode which took a look at TIG polling and the Times Red Box podcast interview with Anna Soubry.

Stephen and Mark discuss three things they don't like.

A few follow-up links for what we discussed:

• Finnish universal basic income trial and thoughts from my time on a policy working group looking at the subject.

Mark Pack and Stephen Tall discuss Paddy Ashdown, Lib Dem strategy and our obsession with US politics. Brexit nearly doesn't get mentioned.

Stephen Tall and Mark Pack talk about their favourite political podcasts and commentators, what the government should be doing if it wasn't consumed by Brexit and the Liberal Democrats.