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Join Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. 

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Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!

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For the show notes (guest bio, summary, resources, etc), go to: www.lifteconomy.com/podcast.

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Join Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. 

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Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!

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For the show notes (guest bio, summary, resources, etc), go to: www.lifteconomy.com/podcast.

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Join Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. 

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Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!

Learn more at  lifteconomy.com/mba. 

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For the show notes (guest bio, summary, resources, etc), go to: www.lifteconomy.com/podcast.

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Join Next Economy Living, beginning October 2025! By joining a cohort, you’ll learn how to deepen personal security and resilience practices to thrive and flourish amidst ecological and economic collapse. The training is designed to support you to deepen your changmaking while also taking care of your material and financial needs. 

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Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!

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David Holmgren is best known as the co-originator with Bill Mollison of the permaculture concept following the publication of Permaculture One in 1978. Since then he has developed three properties, consulted and supervised in urban and rural projects and presented lectures, workshops and courses at a wide variety of events and venues in Australia and around the world. His writings over those three decades span a diversity of subjects and issues but always illuminating another aspect of permaculture thinking.

As well as constant involvement in the practical side of permaculture, David is passionate about the philosophical and conceptual foundations for sustainability, the focus of his seminal book Permaculture: Principles and Pathways Beyond Sustainability.  This book has been significant influences on the development of Transition Initiatives around the world. More recently his Future Scenarios work has seen him recognized as a significant thinker about the “Energy Descent future.” 

Interview Highlights:

• From the co-originator of the permaculture concept, David shares his definition of what permaculture is and what it is not
• Discussion of David’s new book, RetroSuburbia: The Downshifter's Guide to a Resilient Future
• An unpacking of many economic ideas based around what David Holmgren argues is the basic economic unit of society: the household.

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The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective. 

Join the growing network of nearly 250+ alumni who have learned essential skills, increased their confidence in Next Economy business fundamentals, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.

Courses are offered twice per year. Learn more and/or register today at http://www.lifteconomy.com.mba.

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Isha Clarke is a high school student born, raised, and educated in Oakland, CA with a passion for intersectional activism. She knows that threats to the environment disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks, and young people. It is essential to know this while fighting for environmental justice so we can can create a just and equitable world while maintaining a livable climate.

Interview Highlights:

• How Isha Clarke got involved with the climate justice movement and organizations like the Sunrise Movement and Youth vs. Apocalypse
• A bit of background on the video with Diane Feinstein and Sunrise Movement youth activists that went viral and the impacts of that interaction
• How listeners can contribute to the resistance movements that are holding the line for the possibility of the next economy
• Why historically marginalized and under-resourced groups need to be at the center of the conversations around the climate crisis

Resources:

• Youth VS Apocalypse Website: http://youthvsapocalypse.org/
• The Sunrise Movement Website:  https://www.sunrisemovement.org/
• Sen Feinstein Dismisses children pushing for #GreenNewDeal: "You didn't vote for me": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yK4jMMueM

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The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective. 

Join the growing network of nearly 250+ alumni who have learned essential skills, increased their confidence in Next Economy business fundamentals, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.

Courses are offered twice per year. Learn more and/or register today at http://www.lifteconomy.com.mba.

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Autumn Brown is a mother, organizer, theologian, artist, and facilitator. She is a Worker-Owner with AORTA, the Anti-Oppression Resource & Training Alliance, and cohosts the podcast How to Survive the End of the World with her sister, adrienne maree brown. She serves on the Board of Directors of the Common Fire Foundation and Voices for Racial Justice. 

In addition to her work as a facilitator, political educator, and consultant, Autumn is a speculative and creative non-fiction writer. Her work has been published in the Procyon Science Fiction Anthology, Octavia’s Brood: Science Fiction Stories from Social Justice Movements, Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good, and Revolutionary Mothering: Love on the Front Lines. She lives in Minnesota.

Interview Highlights:

• How Autumn first got into the type of work she is doing today
• Worker cooperatives and why Americans are so resistant to cooperation
• How to practice inclusive decision-making with internal teams
• Autumn’s work at the Anti-Oppression Resource and Training Alliance (AORTA)
• The podcast “How to Survive the End of the World,” which Autumn co-hosts with her sister, adrienne marie brown.

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The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective. 

Join the growing network of nearly 250+ alumni who have learned essential skills, increased their confidence in Next Economy business fundamentals, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.

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Edgar Villanueva is a nationally-recognized expert on social justice philanthropy. Edgar currently serves as Chair of the Board of Directors of Native Americans in Philanthropy and is a Board Member of the Andrus Family Fund, a national foundation that works to improve outcomes for vulnerable youth.

Edgar is an instructor with The Grantmaking School at the Johnson Center at Grand Valley State University and currently serves as Vice President of Programs and Advocacy at the Schott Foundation for Public Education where he oversees grant investment and capacity building supports for education justice campaigns across the United States.

Edgar previously held leadership roles at Kate B. Reynolds Charitable Trust in North Carolina and at the Marguerite Casey Foundation in Seattle.

Edgar is the author of Decolonizing Wealth, which offers hopeful and compelling alternatives to the dynamics of colonization in the philanthropic and social finance sectors.

Interview Highlights:

• How Edgar’s work is moving money into communities of color
• What has surprised Edgar the most since his book was released in 2018
• The dysfunctions and realities of philanthropy
• How we can move the needle towards dismantling white supremacy
• Edgar’s plans for the future (including creating a Decolonizing Wealth fund)

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The Next Economy MBA is a nine month online course for entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs who want to learn key business fundamentals (e.g., vision, culture, strategy, and operations) from an equitable, inclusive, and regenerative perspective. 

Join the growing network of nearly 250+ alumni who have learned essential skills, increased their confidence in Next Economy business fundamentals, and joined a lifelong peer group that is catalyzing a global shift towards an economy that works for all life.

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Interested in designing a world that works for the benefit of all life? Join our fall cohort of The Next Economy MBA, beginning September 30th, and use discount code PODCASTMB@ to save 10% on tuition!

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