Nick Cook, has a new book on Ingo Swann and lots to say about the UAP Preliminary Assessment.

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Speaker: [00:00:02] Call to serve. It has no sound, yet I have heard it. It has no form, yet I have clearly seen it. America’s Navy, a global force for good.

Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:15] You got to admit they do great ads. I also think it’s really interesting. You know, those American Navy ads used to be a force for good. And they changed it to a global force for good. What [unclear 00:28] up with that? So I have an interview coming up with a guy, excellent guys, so fortunate to get this guy to come on. His name is Nick Cook. And he’s written a terrific new book about Ingo Swann, the famous psychic part of the remote viewing program, and really one of most gifted psychics kind of ever, in terms of the documented things that he did absolutely amazing. But what’s really interesting about Nick and the reason I kind of changed this clip up at the beginning is Nick has been in the aerospace and defense industry for a long time, highly regarded as a writer slash reporter, and has a ton of stories about that some of which he shares in the interview. But also he just brings a different perspective in a different sensibility. It’s one that we need to hear because we want you on that, well, we need you on that wall. There’s some truth to that. I mean, we do need defense, even though it’s always a mixed bag. So like, for example, one of the things we got into is the latest phony baloney, UAP report, or maybe it’s not phony. Here’s Nick’s perspective.

Nick Cook: [00:01:40] If we bring that up to date, now, we’ve got a UAP report that has recently been handed into Congress, nine pages in the unclassified version, the things that are really left out, or the elephant in this report, are the exotic anomalous sightings data set.

Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:01] But Nick hold on. I mean, the elephant in this room is so fucking big. There’s no room for anything else. I mean, they kill people, or threaten to kill people, threaten their family, if they ever, ever said a word about this. And then December 2017, let’s roll it on the New York Times. But there’s no way this ties to the reality that we’re talking about?

Nick Cook: [00:02:27] Well, for me, what I try and do is I’m trying to transpose my mind into the mindset of the military here. I was in that world when I was a Jane’s editor. If I wanted to write about out their stuff, I had to write on a line. And it took me a while to work out where that line was. But once I knew where it was I stuck to it. Absolutely what those guys are doing in that UAP report, the writers of it are sticking to that line.

Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:58] So we get to talk about that and other things at the end of the interview. But most of the interview was really dedicated to Ingo Swann and the remote viewing program that he was a part of, and there’s just a lot of interesting anecdotes that go along with that, including kind of a missile gap, psychic spying gap thing that we got into and the reality of all that. Here’s another clip. So part of the mind game was, hey, those Russians might be spying on us. And then we all find out that Yeah, actually, they were and they were kind of more into the human intelligence kind of stuff. What if we can plant thoughts in that Reagan’s head? What if we can kill them remotely with psychic energy? I mean,