Original Air Date: January 8, 2020

Nikole Hannah Jones is in the news because UNC turned her down for a professorship even though she’s a MacArthur Genius grant recipient and a Pulitzer Prize winner so it’s a good tome to throwback to our 2020 interview. But what’s really going on is she’s the creator of the amazing 1619 project for The NY Times and that project is frightening to the right because it explains how America is still impacted by the legacy of slavery. It is not just our past. We are, today, a slaveocracy. The 1619 project is a podcast, a series of essays, and, soon, a series of books. She is a true genius and I could feel her genius as I spoke to her. She is a person who is toweringly influential in that her ideas have changed many people’s thinking on many issues, people including me. I look up to her intellectually and with the 1619 project she aims to shape the way people see the relationship between America and slavery. It was an honor to talk to @nhannahjones.

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