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Speaking the truth about working in sports?? Blasphemy!
This week on the podcast, we’ll look back at Erin Andrews’ Thanksgiving-aggregated news-making comments and examine her truthful, straight-from-the-heart words about working in the business and the way the Internet quickly aggregates stories about celebrities, even when they’re taken out of context.
We’ll get into the sacrifices you have to make to work in the business and how Erin’s comments should be heard more often - that it’s not always sunshine and rainbows covering big-time events. Also, why do we condemn people who are successful, at least on social media, for having thoughts on work-life balance and mental health?
We’ve been lucky to work with some of the industry’s great personalities and relive some of those memories, and of course, you didn’t think we’d just let Lane Kiffin off the hook as he rode off on his pontoon boat to Baton Rouge, did you? He’ll play a starring role in one of our sponsor segments, “I Wanna Be A Ho”. Our other supporting sponsor for this week’s episode is Modern Computers, because sometimes comms pros need a little help remembering they’re actually living in 2025.
Timestamps
7:26 - Erin Andrews' Honest Advice
18:31 - Social Media Sucks: Barca Needs a T-Shirt
19:15 - The Value of Real-Life Connections
22:19 - Advice for Young People in Sports
24:22 - Living in the Moment in Sports
29:21 - The Highs and Lows of Sports Careers
49:14 - The Power of Relationships in Sports
53:08 - Dick Vitale and Bill Walton: Legends Off Camera
1:00:40 - Our New Sponsors, Modern Computers and I Wanna Be A Ho
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This week on a snack-sized edition of the podcast, we introduce new sponsors, The Sewage Suit and StaffDuel, and then pontificate on the glorious feeling of knowing that your season is over. We’ll also touch on MACtion, our favorite tailgating foods and KFC missing out on a great new business opportunity.
The BoggsOMeter is running red hot and he’s Up To His Ears about one particular fan base that regularly gives administrators and the league office the middle finger, and nobody does a thing about it. It falls through the cracks with most media, but not with us!
Timestamps
2:33 The Sewage Suit
4:04 StaffDuel
7:07 Exhaling When The Season Ends
13:17 Missing Out Working In Sports
14:02 The Joys of Tailgating
23:27 A Fan Base That Dares You To Tell Them No
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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You know that feeling when fall sports are wrapping up and winter sports are ramping up, and suddenly you're living at the office with nothing but energy drinks and broken dreams? Yeah, sports people call that Crossover Season. Some call it madness. Barca calls it hell. We call it content.
This week, we're joined by the legendary Eric "Stooche" Jones to swap war stories from the trenches of 14-hour workdays and office naps that didn't quite count as sleep. Sure, crossover season will test your sanity and obliterate your social life, but it also gives you the kind of stories you tell at reunions—the "remember when we literally didn't go home for three days" kind.
We're building our hypothetical Zombie Apocalypse survival bags (because if we had to do this all over again, we'd at least come prepared), comparing notes on what kept us functional during the calendar's most unforgiving stretch.
It's Thanksgiving week, which means it's time for gratitude, family, and... Barca's wildly controversial opinions about holiday food. We're running through what we're thankful for—some answers are snarky, some are surprisingly wholesome, and all are 100% honest.
But let's address the elephant (or turkey) in the room: Barca is categorically WRONG about Thanksgiving food. We said it. We'll defend this position. The rest of you can weigh in.
Happy Thanksgiving to our amazing listeners! May your turkey be moist, your in-laws be tolerable, and your crossover seasons be survivable.
Timestamps
6:13 - Crossover Season: The Zombie Apocalypse
12:40 - Sickness and Survival
14:31 - The Crossover Season Scheduling Nightmare
23:25 - The Gingerbread Man Incident
27:07 - Saturday Triple Header Aftermath
37:10 - The Power of Guest Services
40:06 - Zombie Apocalypse Survival Kit
47:07 - EJ’s Famous Christmas Cards
57:56 - The Great Thanksgiving Debate
1:01:14 - Victory Oatmeal Cream Pies and Camaraderie
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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This week, we sit down with Joe Dubin, a Nashville native who spent over 20 years as one of Middle Tennessee's most beloved media figures. Known for his "Big Joe On The Go" series, Joe didn't just report stories—he celebrated people. But when the cameras stopped rolling and the identity he'd built came crashing down, Joe found himself in the darkest place imaginable, questioning whether life was worth living.
In this raw and powerful conversation, Joe opens up about losing everything, the "God moments" that pulled him back from the edge, and how he rebuilt his life with a completely different foundation. Today, Joe is thriving again—but this time, his identity isn't tied to the work. It's about the message: We are all worth it.
Timestamps
20:22 - Joe's 20+ year career in Nashville television and his "Big Joe On The Go" series
33:07 - The moment everything fell apart and he lost his sense of identity
34:09 - The "God moments"
36:26 - Rebuilding from scratch and discovering a new purpose
44:19 - Why getting off the couch and trying is the key to experiencing monumental things
1:02:00 - Working in Sports
1:07:00 - Jimmy Buffett words of wisdom
1:13:20 - State of local media
About Joe Dubin
Current Work:
Co-host of The Chase and Big Joe Show on 102.5 The Game in Nashville (with Chase McCabe)
Anchor for Fox 17's high school football coverage
Weekly columnist for Main Street Media (Middle Tennessee)
Motivational speaker
Books:
Create The Chaos
Screaming At God
Lord, Please Don't Hit That Mailbox
We All Walk Together
Nashville—We Still Love You
Website:
BigJoeOnTheGo.com
Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide, please know that help is available.
You can reach the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988, available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can also chat online at 988lifeline.org.
If you're not in the United States, you can find international crisis resources at findahelpline.com.
We encourage listeners to prioritize their mental health and well-being. If this topic may be difficult for you, please consider whether this is the right time to listen, and know that you can return to this episode when you feel ready.
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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Look, we've covered a lot of big events. We've survived March Madness. We’ve spent 15 days in Omaha. But this week? A wrinkled tablecloth nearly ended us both. We're diving deep into the weird, obsessive world of press conference staging—the stuff nobody sees but everybody would notice if it went wrong. Trust us, there are stories here.
We’ll then move into the ESPN/YouTube TV debacle. ESPN personalities begging fans to pick sides in a corporate carriage dispute? It's giving "please clap" energy. We break down why this whole standoff is theater of the absurd, and why Pat McAfee—of all people—became the voice of reason by telling his colleagues to stay in their lane. When Pat's the grown-up in the room, you know things have gone sideways.
And finally, since 2014, university presidents and athletic directors have lit a billion dollars on fire just to fire coaches. A billion. So we're offering athletic departments some free consultancy: the green flags and red flags you should actually be looking for when hiring a head coach. Spoiler—it's not just who wins the press conference.
This episode is brought to you by Drape Daddies and The Stapler Meltdown. Barca heard these new sponsors pay premium rates for unhinged ad reads, so we're expecting fat checks. Let's see if they deliver.
Timestamps
03:18 — The table-skirt trigger
13:10 — Pat McAfee, the voice of reason? ESPN personalities and the SEC shilling for The Mouse
46:08 — How to avoid burning through a billion dollars in coaching buyouts - red and green flags for hiring your new coach
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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This week on the podcast, we are thrilled to welcome longtime mentor, colleague and friend Eric Nichols to talk about the latest in digital marketing and technology in the sports universe.
Nichols is a longtime collegiate administrator who honed his craft at Vanderbilt and South Carolina before taking his talents to WMT Digital, a forward-thinking tech firm helping sports teams build personalized and immersive digital experiences.
We’ll reminisce about his early days about his groundbreaking marketing efforts at Vanderbilt, how Sandstorm took Gamecock Nation by storm, and his thoughts on the latest in digital marketing, AI and where he thinks digital efforts are going in the future.
Buckle up for a masterclass in sports innovation, storytelling, and what happens when you dare to think differently.
Special thanks to our new sponsors, Golden Slides and Drawl Generator. Their financial contributions are greatly appreciated (when we receive them).
Timestamps
10:55 — The Grit Behind the Scenes: Early Mornings and Piss Bags
11:47 — Defying the Odds: Building Traditions at Vanderbilt
12:27 — The Birth of Sandstorm: How a Song Became a Tradition
24:05 — Digital Mindset: The Untapped Power of Athletic Websites
28:00 — Curating Content and Building Brand Personality
32:00 — The Power of Data: Knowing Your Fans
36:00 — Personalization and the Future of Fan Engagement
52:00 — Dynamic Ticket Pricing: AI Finds the Perfect Price
1:12:00 — Words of Wisdom: Writing, Selling, and Mastering AI
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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This week on the show, we examine what it takes to be a good storyteller, and how these tried-and-true patterns, which have shaped all of humanity regardless of culture, can affect your career, your relationships with others and your own journey to fulfillment and happiness.
We’re very passionate about these things and think they can add a lot of richness to everything you encounter.
This episode is sponsored by The Ungratefully Dead As A Duck Collection and everyone’s favorite AI assistant, My Sports Pal. We’ll take IOU’s in these trying times.
Timestamps:
Rags to Riches— 8:44
Man in a Hole: Resilience and Recovery — 32:36
Authenticity in Storytelling: Sharing the Lows — 36:32
The Icarus Arc: Flying Too Close to the Sun — 45:19
Cinderella Story Arc: Rising Again — 53:38
The Oedipus Arc: Fall, Rise, and Fall Again — 1:01:16
Breaking Cycles: Lessons from the Oedipus Arc — 1:05:51
The Simplicity of Storytelling — 1:10:07
Story Arcs in Everyday Life and Work — 1:12:21
The Story's Not Finished: Hope and Possibility — 1:15:10
More on Story Arcs
Kurt Vonnegut’s Shape of Stories (Video)
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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After planning for a peaceful 25th episode of No Longer Credentialed, we took a U-Turn when we heard the latest from John Calipari and his take on NIL from SEC Media Days. Does he really believe what he’s saying? We’ll take a look at the absurdity of his comments and discuss whether this new era of player empowerment is cracking some of the old kingmakers of college basketball.
We then head to Barca’s old stomping grounds, MLS, to look into its AI slop, which they at least labeled and told us about, and their lack of access for reporters, even when it’s been collectively bargained with the players. Is the lack of access hindering the growth and popularity of their product? Especially with their horrible television deal and no eyeballs on their sport?
This “Silver Jubilee” episode is brought to you by The 5 AM Breakdown and Golden Image. Maybe we’ll get a private jet ride out of these latest partnerships.
Timestamps:
6:46 — Deep Dive: Calipari’s NCAA Scandals
9:41 — Top Transactional Coaches in College Sports
16:03 — MLS & AI Recaps Slop
28:00 — MLS Media Access Debate
32:40 — The State of MLS: TV Deals, Marketing, and Growth
57:07 — Comparing MLS to Other Leagues
1:04:47 — Final Thoughts on Media Relations and League Transparency
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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In this week’s episode, we’ll dive back into the Bill Belichick saga at North Carolina and as we predicted in the early days of the podcast, it isn’t working well. We’ll then dig a few layers deeper and ask, “Who really runs the department?” and provide you with stories of the absolute power of a head coach in a high-major college athletic department and of the ridiculousness of some of their requests and the mental toll it can take on a staffer that’s just trying to do their job.
How did coaches gain so much power? Is there a way to curb it? How much does media coverage play into this dynamic? And what are some ways to change how coaches are perceived?
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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Timestamps:
UNC's Turbulent Belichick Era: We Told You So — (03:36)
Do College Coaches Wield Too Much Power? — (06:05)
The Cult of the College Coach — (20:22)
Who Really Runs the Athletic Department? — (26:01)
The Toll of Coach Ego and Burnout — (31:03)
The Watergate Moment: Hot Mic Revelation — (34:07)
Promoting The Coach And Forgetting The Players - (40:42)
Will the Power Structure Ever Change? — (1:06:38)
In this episode, we explore the search for meaning in sports careers, inspired by Viktor Frankl’s philosophy and his book, A Man’s Search For Meaning. We reflect on our own journeys, questioning whether fulfillment comes from titles, pay, or the deeper connections forged through teamwork and adversity. We discuss the universal nature of suffering, the importance of gratitude, and the challenge of finding purpose after setbacks or career changes. Through candid stories—ranging from service trips abroad to the grind of long hours—we reveal that meaning is often found in relationships, community, and the willingness to be vulnerable.
We’ll challenge you to reconsider what truly matters: Is it the accolades, or the impact you have on others? The episode closes with a reminder that the search for meaning is ongoing, and that embracing curiosity, kindness, and inspiration can transform even the most difficult experiences into something profound.
Key Moments and Timestamps
0:00 — Introduction: The hosts set the stage, inspired by Viktor Frankl’s search for meaning.
1:47 — Why meaning matters in sports and life; the pressure and purpose of coaching.
7:10 — Suffering & Setbacks: Losing a job, facing adversity, and realizing suffering is universal.
17:54 — The Power of Relationships: Meaning found in community, not just career achievements.
24:51 — Service Trip Story: Brandon’s transformative experience in Tanzania, finding purpose beyond work.
29:54 — Gratitude & Belonging: The importance of gratitude, diversity, and belonging in sports.
38:16 — Vulnerability & Boundaries: Honest talk about setting boundaries and the difficulty of leadership.
54:00 — Letting Go of Control: Wrestling with control, technology, and the ongoing search for meaning.
1:09:00 — Closing Reflections: Embracing curiosity, kindness, and the journey to find meaning.
This episode was produced and written by Brandon Barca and Andy Boggs.
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