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This week’s episode opens with a dive into “the jakes”, a weird bit of bathroom slang coined by none other than…Cormac McCarthy? As usual, our niche historical ramblings lead us to talk about a major modern problem…why doesn’t anyone care about ANYTHING?

From there, Kevin reflects on the daunting time and cost of his novel Sleep Warrior. Why spend years on something that might never pay off? In such a detached world, is caring even worth it?

Next we dig into the shockingly difficult psychology behind caring. If dopamine makes the IDEA of success feel as good as the real thing, how do you stay motivated to finish? Plus, we get a little “Lieber Lore” that might explain Kevin’s ongoing pursuit of new creative ventures.

To cap it off, Matt tells a story from South America about meeting strangers, seizing the moment, and why you need to stop waiting for movie-like “meet cutes” instead of creating your own stories.

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Hosts: Kevin Lieber and Matt Tabor

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Editor: Spencer Vann

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