Noah Filipiak interviews Noel Heikkinen, one of the pastors at

Riverview Church in Holt, Lansing and East Lansing, MI.  Riverview is a

church made up of around 3000 - 4000 people that has 4 venues in the

Lansing area.  Noel and Noah discuss the hardest thing about being a

pastor, including a helpful discussion about the anxiety pastors and

church planters face, how we can combat anxiety, and how churchgoers can

help their pastors feel less anxiety.  They discuss how churchgoers can

help their pastors stay healthy, avoid burnout, and stay at their

current ministry post longer.  They also discuss the dangers of church

planting and book publishing, including good reasons to do such ventures as well as sinful reasons.Noel is a director with the Acts 29 Church

Planting network and is author of a book with the working title

"Unchained" coming out in early 2017 with David C. Cook publishers.