In this episode, Mary Katharine and Karol discuss the impact of leadership changes in the U.S. government, particularly under President Trump. They explore domestic policies, disaster response, immigration issues, and the controversies surrounding clemency decisions made by Joe Biden. The conversation also touches on the origins of COVID-19 and the media's role in shaping public perception. Normally is part of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Podcast Network - new episodes debut every Tuesday & Thursday.

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