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Hello, friends! In our latest chat, we dive into the evolution of color in fashion, home decor, and aesthetics. We talk about how society's trends have leaned towards monochromatic palettes and share our personal experiences with color. We also touch on the role of social media and the importance of expressing individuality through style. Plus, we have a little critique on the Pantone Color of the Year. This episode is all about embracing color and making personal choices in a world that often feels a bit too bland.

What’s your personal color of the year? We’d love to know! Email us at [email protected]

xoAlice & Allie

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Hey there! Today, Allison and I are talking about the delightful world of the Great British Bake Off. This show isn’t just about baking; it’s about the warmth, charm, and genuine connections it fosters, in the much needed safety of a lovely, colorful kitchen. We’ll chat about how it’s not your typical competitive reality show and why its cultural richness keeps us coming back for more. Enjoy the episode and let us know what is your favorite British bake, what you love about the show, and if there is a particular baker that you have a sweet spot for.

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Hi Friends! Allison here! I’m so excited for you to listen to this conversation! Alice and I had the pleasure of sitting down with the delightful Matthew Norman to chat about his latest book, “Grace and Henry’s Holiday Movie Marathon.” In this heartwarming episode, we reminisce about our 15-year friendship, our shared love for holiday movies, and the unexpected joys and challenges of this festive season. Whether you’re a holiday enthusiast or a self-proclaimed Grinch like me, this conversation is sure to warm your heart and bring a smile to your face. Tune in for laughter, nostalgia, and a sprinkle of holiday magic.

And please let us know how you feel about the holidays! Email us at [email protected]

xo Alice & Allison

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Movies mentioned in this episode:

Christmas Vacation

A Christmas Story

Miracle on 34th Street

Meet Me in St. Louis

Elf

Ferris Bueller’s Day Off

Weekend at Bernie’s

Notting Hill

Love Actually

The Family Stone

White Christmas

Songs and Albums mentioned in this episode:

The Beach Boys Christmas Album

Bob Dylan - Christmas in the Heart

Bing Crosby Merry Christmas

A Jolly Christmas from Frank Sinatra

The Dean Martin Christmas Album

Dominick the Italian Christmas Donkey - Lou Monte

I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas - Gayla Peevey

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In this engaging conversation, artist Nikkolas Smith discusses with Allison and Alice the intersection of art and activism, coining the term ‘artivism’ to describe their approach. They explore how personal experiences, societal issues, and historical narratives shape their work, emphasizing the importance of empathy and dialogue in art. The discussion also touches on educational justice, food deserts, and the power of storytelling in fiction to address social issues. Throughout, they reflect on the challenges and triumphs of using art as a tool for change and the ongoing journey of finding one’s voice as an artist.

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In this episode, Alice Carbone Tench and Allison Larkin have the great honor of talking with “cultural consultant, leadership strategist, nonviolence trainer, and good neighbor,” Dr. Vonnetta L. West. Several years ago, Allison took a Be Love Nonviolence 365 training course from Dr. West through The King Center and found it truly life-changing. Be Love is an approach to life and conflict that recognizes injustice and leads with kindness. Dr. West, Alice, and Allison discuss ways to use love, compassion, and curiosity to preserve and promote community; including how to apply them to the social media landscape or a family meal.

“Dr. King said “Justice at its best is love correcting everything that stands against love.” And I just wish and I pray that we have more people doing justice work. People who are committed to being vessels of love and correcting everything that stands against love. What are those things? People not having healthcare—that stands against love. Some children being in school in dilapidated buildings that have rodents and don’t have heat—that stands against love. And we can simplify that so easily and say ‘Okay I want to work to correct something that stands against love.’ Each person can do that in their families and their schools and we can do it collectively through our legislation and through our different programs and advocacy work.”

~Dr. Vonnetta L. West

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Letter from Birmingham Jail, by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Transcript

Alice Carbone Tench (00:02)

Hi, Allison. Nice to see you.

Allison Larkin (00:04)

Hi

Dr. West, we have Dr. Vonnetta West with us and I am so thrilled to be having this conversation. How are you?

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (00:12)

I’m doing well. Thank you so much for having me. How are you?

Allison Larkin (00:16)

We’re good. It’s, We’re both in California. I’m in Northern California and Alice is in Southern California and it’s raining here. And, ⁓ we are famously babies about the rain. California and rain. Yes, very much so. And, my dogs have, one dog doesn’t mind the rain and the other one is, is very offended. He’s very upset. ⁓

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (00:23)

Ugh.

You happy to be inside?

Alice Carbone Tench (00:39)

Hahaha

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (00:39)

Well, I’m in Metro Atlanta, so it’s 72 degrees today. The sun is shining. You should come over.

Allison Larkin (00:45)

My goodness. That is perfection.

Alice Carbone Tench (00:46)

Perfection.

Allison Larkin (00:49)

Yes, we should have done this at your house.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (00:53)

It would have been great.

Allison Larkin (00:54)

Yes, so I am so excited to have you here, Vonnetta ⁓ I took a class—for our listeners—I took a class through the King Center during the shutdown, I believe, because it was an online class. It was a Be Love training session. And I think it gave me something that I was really searching for in terms of I think, you know, back then there was a lot of snark on the internet, there was a lot of political things happening and it seemed like the way to be on social media was to have like a quip or a joke or a somewhat nasty thing to say about the person you were against. And I was feeling like I wanted to speak out about the things that were upsetting me and I didn’t know how to do that because in my heart being nasty or making a joke or trying to take somebody down wasn’t in me. And I felt like I don’t know how to be the person I need to be. And then I took this Be Love class, which is all about leading with love and figuring out who you wanna be and how to show up that way. And the idea that love is a strength, it’s not passive, it’s active. And I feel like it changed my confidence. It made me feel like I can go into a situation and know who I wanna be and how to show up. And that was really life changing and I highly recommend that anybody, whoever has the opportunity to take a class with you or to take a class with the King Center, because I also know you do consulting through Go West Consulting. And I feel like this is such an important tool to have. And I am also really a little sheepish about this, but over the weekend I posted something about—

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (02:23)

Yes.

Allison Larkin (02:37)

I’m fine. But I posted something about going for a mammogram and my face got bruised in the process of having a maneuver around the machine and I was very upset by that. And it got 10,000 likes or something like that on threads, which meant that I had all these people who don’t know me commenting and a lot of women were taking the attitude of, suck it up.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (02:52)

Wow, wow.

Allison Larkin (03:03)

Like you’re complaining about a bruise, suck it up. And I was just saying, I wish they’d designed a machine that was built for women. And for a long time, I was able to not respond or say like, well, that’s lovely for you, but it hurt me. And I’m not saying I’m not grateful for the imaging and the testing and everything I needed, but I’m upset that I got hurt. And I think that we should have better than that. And then it just kept going and it kept going. And somebody said something super nasty like, well, you got bruised, get over it. And I said, ⁓ you must be fun at parties. ⁓ then she came back to me and said, I’m great at parties, how’s that bruise? And I thought, ⁓ this isn’t who I wanna be. And it reminded me of your.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (03:36)

Yeah.

Allison Larkin (03:53)

Teachings and it reminded me that I need a reset on that. That like it’s one thing to be quippy and it’s one thing to have a comeback but I know in one of your online sermons that I listened to you were talking about how hatefulness violates self and I know that you have this motto of nonviolence being a way of being that influences our doing and I was just so aware of the fact—you know it’s not it’s not a world-ending thing I’ll get over it.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (04:14)

Mm hmm.

Allison Larkin (04:20)

I’ll get over the hate I was feeling and I’ll also get over the way that I behaved. But it was such a huge reset. And I was so happy that we were going to talk today after that because I thought, ⁓ I fell down on the job a little. I got to pick myself up here. Like, I have standards that I learned that I need to hold up. And I think that going into Thanksgiving and talking about community.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (04:29)

Yes

Allison Larkin (04:43)

And going in where we all have all these huge emotions right now about so many different things and our communities are in conflict with each other. I was just really excited to get to talk with you about all of this.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (04:55)

Thank you.

First of all, I want to say I’m glad that your mammogram showed that you just have a cyst. I read that post and I was hoping we have an opportunity to talk about it today because I think People are going through different things, you know, it could be that maybe you know five years ago You might have responded differently to a bruise but given all the tensions and the stress of the world

A bruise now would be a major thing. I have a mammogram coming up and I am unexcited. And I just think that we have a right to that, whatever our response is, however we feel about being mashed and pushed and poked and prodded and all of those things. just, think acknowledgement is so powerful. And one of the things that I’m learning more about is to go into people’s social media spaces and say, I acknowledge your pain.

Allison Larkin (05:30)

Yeah.

Yes.

Dr. Vonnetta L. West (05:48)

And however, why ever you feel that way, I want to say I’m s…

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In this conversation, Allison and Alice answers questions from Alice’s almost 8-year-old daughter, Catherine. The discussion highlights the beauty of a child’s inquisitive nature and the importance of addressing their questions thoughtfully. From puberty to kids, from how to clean a coffee machine to what it means to be a grown up, this is a candid episode to remember we all go through life of both hardship and miracles at at every stage of it, and that we don’t have to ever do it alone.

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In this episode, Alice Carbone Tench and Allison Larkin finish the Proust Questionnaire! They discuss what they value in friendship, historical figures they admire, favorite books and the impact of literature on their lives.

We hope you enjoy this conversation!

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In this engaging conversation, Fred Armisen, Allison Larkin, and Alice Carbone Tench explore the themes of creativity, collaboration, and the multifaceted nature of artistic identity. They discuss the importance of embracing freedom in creative expression, the influence of cultural backgrounds on art, and the evolving nature of accents and dialects. As they celebrate Fred Armisen’s recently released album, 100 Sound Effects, that also features Alice Carbone Tench, the trio reflects on the role of social media in the creative process, the significance of humility, and the joy of making art with loved ones. They also touch on the necessity of following creative urges and the impact of influential artists like Yoko Ono on modern creativity.

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Fred’s 100 Sound Effects Album

The Little Hours

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In this celebratory episode, Alice and Allison read listener emails and reflect on their journey through the first 25 episodes of Now That We Think About It. They discuss their first few guests and share personal stories about what they’ve learned from each other and listeners in relation to the significance of rest, the balance between order and chaos, and the joy of spending time in nature.

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Trigger warning: This episode talks about Eating Disorders and body dysmorphia.

In this conversation, Allison and Alice explore themes of self-image, generational trauma, womanhood, and the struggles of aging and body image. They reflect on the complexities of embracing aging and change, and the societal pressures that shape self-perception. The discussion highlights the shared human experience of insecurity and the importance of self-acceptance, while also emphasizing the need for humor and compassion in navigating these challenges.

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